A prompt-a-thon for those who get it doneA prompt-a-thon for those who get it done
Today in Austin, TX, a few of us got together to put some random ideas to work and build any anti-spam solution that improves our lives.
About the event: Come to the bitcoin++ clubhouse this Saturday, May 16th for a friendly competitive 'prompt-a-thon'. Who can make the best 'anti-spam' project in 4 hours?About the event: Come to the bitcoin++ clubhouse this Saturday, May 16th for a friendly competitive 'prompt-a-thon'. Who can make the best 'anti-spam' project in 4 hours?
Winners will take away a baseball cap prize:Winners will take away a baseball cap prize:
2nd place gets bitcoin++ and 1st place choose Core or Knots
I contributed in my way: being a fly on the wall, sussing the vibes, and reporting back to you. I asked participants a short list of questions including:
- what’s your name/nym
- how many hack-a-thons have you participated in before?
- what AI frontend and/or model are you using today?
- what problem are you targeting for your anti-spam solution?
- what’s the best anti-spam solution for the long-term: ...filter spam out? make spam expensive?
a. and this question led us most often here: does the responsibility of finding smart solutions to spam fall to the individual user or to the platform?
Here's what they had to sayHere's what they had to say
plebdev (@bitcoinplebdev)plebdev (@bitcoinplebdev)
15 hack-a-thons
Codex app, GPT 5.5 low fast
Bitcoin - because it’s an interesting problem and maybe a funny, adversarial solution
Curate signal - web of trust - fighting spam is an always losing game. But you can always define what is timeless to you and what you want to curate - that’s more of a winning game. Focus more what you want to see vs what you don’t want to see.
JakeJake
2 hack-a-thons(these were Austin BTC++ mempools and this one)
ChatGPT
Large transactions on blockchain
You can’t pin down what spam is. BIP110 is about picking what people use now, but the problem is, when you patch those out, people just come up with new ones. Patching up all the holes is the wrong approach. Instead, incentivize the behavior you want.
stutxostutxo
6 or 7 hack-a-thons
Codex ChatGPT 5.5
Solving the debate: is it spam? or is it a monetary transaction?
Proof of human or make it expensive, Twitter is doing it - you have to buy credits to call the API. Some way to tell who you’re talking to is human, but this is the huge problem.
JackieJackie
2 hack-a-thons (these were at an internship and one internal at a startup)
Codex with Superpowers
Bookmark manager for shopping - organizing stuff I wanna buy
Slop detection might be most reliable, could be automated. If a human can tell what's AI-generated, then an LLM could. A platform is free to filter if it improves their product, but depending on the approach that could be bad. Mostly the user ultimately decides.
Nifty (@niftynei)Nifty (@niftynei)
more than 10 hack-a-thons, my first using AI tools
ChatGPT 5.5 default fast, first time using ChatGPT usually use Claude
I’m trying to make it easy to see who you’re getting email from and how to unsubscribe, keeping the user in the loop.
No solution other than building better tools. Email is easy because of the concept of unsubscribe. Whereas elsewhere, it’s more difficult to curate. It really depends, people’s definition of what counts as spam is different. Like I’m interested in some things that could be ‘spam’, I do want to see them, just less frequently.
ReflectionReflection
Over the last year, I pretty much turned my ears off to the endless debates on spam inside of bitcoin circles. It lost meaning for me; I just don’t have real world touch points with the subject. But speaking with everyone about it briefly today, I realize an answer to spam in general as a concept is pretty clear, and we all basically agreed on this point: Spam is subjective and it’s your job to deal with.
That’s pretty clean to me. I don’t have any particular problem looking at it this way. Just like anything else in my life that causes me pain, I am ultimately the best person to address it.
ResultsResults
Peer-ranking determined the winners. Each participant had 5 minutes to show off what they made.
Winner: subbot.me by nifty - a service that analyzes who you get email from where you can unsubscribe in one click
Second: Bitcoin Bouncer by plebdev - a living filter for bitcoin txs, replaces hardcoded filters with an agent and spam dectectoor - sends pending txs to a twitter poll where the people decide if it's spam or nah
Everyone put together something that worked. The sprint was successful!
Thanks for reading.
As an observer, did you feel an ai itch? Seeing these folks cranking out new projects I'm hours, how did it make you think about whether or not to rely on AI tools for your own projects?
I did not experience an itch, no. I’m not dazzled by efficiency ¯_(ツ)_/¯ if that’s something to say for it…hmm let me think. Yeah it’s just not relevant to me personally, but it is to devs
I am occasionally dazzled by efficiency, but what I do is mostly write. And every time I think of using AI to actually do the putting words in a certain order thing I cringe. So then I use it to find things or to explain things to me and I see the developers doing their super high ultra max efficiency one person is an entire company building all the things all the time all at once and I feel like I'm just being a fuddy duddy luddy.
But I like my words and I like them to be mine.
Writing and coding are very different activities with very different goals
To me it's much more reasonable to leverage AI to produce code faster than it is to use AI to produce writing faster
Part of what writing produces is activated in the process of writing itself: clarity of internal thought; honing of ideas.
Whereas for code all that really matters is the output. People do talk about tech debt and maintainability and stuff for code, but imo that only matters to the extent that it slows down your future ability to get the right results
Writing on the other hand is fundamentally different and its product isn't measured solely on the visible output
the fuddy duddy luddy club is where I wanna be, climbing trees, writing haikus
I have boy brain. Please help. If not efficiency, what dazzles you then?
like…duh…. craftsmanship. individuality and uniqueness.
k duh
Congrats to the winners and everyone who shipped in 4 hours.
The best part wasn’t even the projects (which sound awesome), it is the shared realization that spam is subjective and curation is ultimately on the individual.
Very delicious meals
W
Nice