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Hurting is for either eating or getting rid of pests. Fishing, I will be the first to say I hate catch and release because it seems stupid if I am fishing, I am fishing to keep and eat.

Those pets carry disease and damage food, crops, heck, even buildings.

We raise rats to test medical and other things, and there is a reason behind it: knowledge and insights to gain.

Yeah but look at all the exceptions you make to justify harm to the animals.

That is my problem with this stance either you care about animals or you don’t.

This is why I respect vegans they go to the extreme not to harm any animals.

Others just LARP like they care but will go to the local butcher and eat a bloody steak with no guilt but then complain about two cocks killing each in a cage match.

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