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Speaking of shockwallet I sent some funds on chain to test it out and they don’t show up in my wallet
2 confs yet? That's the Pub default
Neutrino won't see it as pending in the mempool
I did it yesterday 254 confirms
Hmm, is the output in lncli listunspent in LND?
There was a bug awhile back where chain tx that came in while pub was down didn't get credited, newer versions scan at start, if you're behind on Pub updates try that
ahh okay what’s the command for updating
Just run the install script again, it'll pull latest with everything in place
I see it when I run the journal command but the wallet is falling to send event
Wallet not talking to pub you mean?
Yeah I sent 2000 sats to onchain as a test. when I run the journalclt command I can see my correct balance of 4172 sats but my shock wallet is only showing 1967
Excellent response as always Justin, I do hope clink gains more adoption but I do fear the laziness of consumers falling for the custodian trap, I mean how often do we hear darth berating almost everyone for not using Bitcoin as intended
Plenty will take the bait, but at least they'll be CLINKing us via bolt11
Lightning.Pub itself might be the better comparison to the fake L2s... CLINK is a down-scoped version if its RPC that's more distributable.
Differences as I see it:
Lightning.Pub is unapologetic about reality. It's an Uncle Jim / Business logic solution, and assumes running something resembling a personal server. Very boring actually on that front.
Where it gets exciting is the meat and potatoes of side-stepping both the the trad web-server and p2p side-effects, thanks to Nostr.
Spark and Ark are a hostile form of at-scale custodian, engaging in crypto-theater and affinity scamming to sell swap services.
Ultimately, both use the same language of the open network, bolt11. Pub and fake L2's get bolt11 across the first mile, CLINK gets it past the last mile.
If we also accept that trust is inevitable for most people, Pub would rather people lean on someone they already trust. You share a house/car/bank account/refridgeratior with other people most likely already, so you'll share a node too. This keeps trustody decentralized. Ark/Spark on the other hand are centralizing that trust, to sell you swaps.
CLINK does undermine Spark in Ark narratives in a few ways, when you consider what they are pretending to solve.
They focus on a mobile-first experience, presumably because using a server is hard... CLINK (and Pub generally) makes using a server easy.
They also claim to solve liveness (they don't). CLINK, because it attaches to a server, embraces the reality of liveness requirements as good and holy.
They lean into the narrative that managing channels and liquidity is too hard, and you're too dumb, so they do it for you. CLINK makes it easy to use the infrastructure of ANYONE YOU CHOSE do that for you.
They claim this crypto-theater is necessary for scale, despite not actually solving the real scaling limitation. Shared nodes, which CLINK facilitates, accepts that scaling is unsolvable so decentralizes the inevitable workaround that is trust.