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no one (other than the medical-industrial complex) is defending the American "healthcare" system. What many of us do believe is that the problem isn't that there's too little government meddling.
I know, I know. THat's what makes this comparison so stupid... it's not a flat, clean "private insurance capitalist" vs "central planning gov universal coverage." So everyone can fling mud at the others, claim the moral/effective high ground.
Having seen the worthlessness of (some of) the European ones, I'm partial to the green American grass
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Maybe what I've seen is also wrong, but it's not removing entire huge high-crime cities that evens things out. It's that if you remove something like the worst 1% of neighborhoods from both the US and Europe, most of America's seeming pathologies disappear. That doesn't mean they aren't real but it does mean they aren't particularly representative of life in America.
Also, no one (other than the medical-industrial complex) is defending the American "healthcare" system. What many of us do believe is that the problem isn't that there's too little government meddling.