BCH I think is a really instructive case study. Ideologically the basic idea "Btc as a medium of exchange" is 👍. At the time, Lightning was just a prototype; people thought Btcers were being maliciously funneled into Blockstream's Liquid sidechain, and the idea that Bitcoin's block limit was filling up was just objective reality.
However, you can see how things have developed since then:
Lightning has grown into an effective and excellent MoE that we do use (we're using it right this second on SN). It's a work-in-progress but it works. I do in fact buy groceries with lightning. *People in 2017 needed to be more patient.
Blockstream's Liquid sidechain petered out and cost them a ton of money. Hardly anybody uses that shit. If that was their attempt at takeover, it wasn't very effective. People in 2017 needed to be more patient.
SegWit didn't increase block size, but without a hard fork it made blocks more efficient in how they use data, which means, de facto... (you fill in the blank). Again, people in 2017 needed to be more patient.
There can be real problems, but you can't always rush a solution, or force everyone to adopt your solution, and solutions often come from an avenue or perspective you didn't expect.
It's also a mistake to assume everyone on the other side is just "EVIL 👿" (which is what we mean when we label them as captured/corrupt/brainwashed/degen/whatever). Actually, it's often the case there's some people on both sides of a Bitcoin conflict who have these qualities.
p.s. I don't have anything comparable to say about BSV. That situation is insane and the less said about it the better.
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BCH I think is a really instructive case study. Ideologically the basic idea "Btc as a medium of exchange" is 👍. At the time, Lightning was just a prototype; people thought Btcers were being maliciously funneled into Blockstream's Liquid sidechain, and the idea that Bitcoin's block limit was filling up was just objective reality.
However, you can see how things have developed since then:
There can be real problems, but you can't always rush a solution, or force everyone to adopt your solution, and solutions often come from an avenue or perspective you didn't expect.
It's also a mistake to assume everyone on the other side is just "EVIL 👿" (which is what we mean when we label them as captured/corrupt/brainwashed/degen/whatever). Actually, it's often the case there's some people on both sides of a Bitcoin conflict who have these qualities.
p.s. I don't have anything comparable to say about BSV. That situation is insane and the less said about it the better.