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You get 10% of your referals' rewards. It means he must have gotten at least one of the very top rewards pullers. Or, possibly, he created an account just for zapping well and early and draws the extra 10% from there.

No this can't be the case.

All the rewarded stackers on top of him are older than he. So they aren't his referrals.

he created an account just for zapping well and early and draws the extra 10% from there.

So, do you get 10% of the referral zaps as well ??

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All the rewarded stackers on top of him are older than he. So they aren't his referrals.

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If you refer someone, he must be newer than your ID number on stacker news.

What referral says that "If a stacker signs up through one of your referral links, you will earn 10% of their rewards in perpetuity."

When you look at the top stackers, none of them are older than aardvark. Plus, to earn 4k sats, a stackers one of them (assuming he's referred by vark), should have earned 40k+ in rewards. And this is definitely not the case.

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Interesting. It wasn't clear how referrers would be assigned for those of us who were here prior to the system starting. We all do have referrers though.

The numbers checked out during the huge rewards days. Are you sure no one pulled 40k in rewards on that day? I've been like 2/3 or 3/2 on rewards and getting 10k+, so 1/1 or 1/1 + 2/3 might be that high.

The only other thing I can think of is some very large amount of zap forwarding, but I have no idea where that would be coming from or why it would be happening.

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Just for instance take the first screenshot work 4k+ sats. This is for yesterday and none has earned 40k+ sats yesterday in rewards. Yet vark has 4k+ (which he shouldn't because noone of the top stackers is referred by him).

The best to understand that there's hole somewhere in the rewards is to check these reward distribution stats right after they are awarded. You'll see vark managing a cut on a daily basis.

The only other thing I can think of is some very large amount of zap forwarding

Zap forwarding where? To vark's posts? I don't think so. Because I'm not seeing any change to his top posts/comments zap amounts even on the days he earned like 20k 30k or 40k or more.

And see this one's for the week and literally doesn't make sense to me..

I see @login earn rewards like he does.

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I meant zap forwarding to Vark from other stackers' posts. That doesn't seem plausible to me. I'm just trying to think through the different ways sats can flow around.

Do we know he isn't the 1/1 rewards puller? There's a crazy return for zapping early and he would have a decent idea about what's going to perform well. If he were zapping 1 sat within a second of each top item going up, what would the draw be?

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Almost all of these days his spending is zero. If he does it by someone else's account I don't think that's gonna earn him like 10% for his referral's referral.

And the amount that he's earning is more than 10% many times..

And tbh there's no better expert than me zapping early, I know it's not that someone always catches a good post..like on a daily basis.

Whether intentionally or unintentionally rewards have been crooked. Yeah I may sound like complaining so be it but I can't tolerate when I zap 4k sats and even don't get half of that but someone without zapping/trying earns it.

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If it possible that one of the Stackers in Hiding is both a rewards whale and an Aardvark referral?

I'm saying he could have a sock-puppet that does the zapping to earn rewards and then his main account gets the referral rewards.

I would like to know who the giant whale that was referred by Aardvark. is it you?

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How should I know? Do you know who your referrer is?

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