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Yeah, it’s crazy. My wife had a medical condition, not covered under insurance. We had to pay $35,000 just to attempt IVF to have our first son so yeah it’s kind of crazy when you’re a little bit older having children and not having the money to pay for it and with pressure & stress and having to go through things like IVF and injecting your wife with tons of steroids like Lance Armstrong.

That's insane, I assume you live in the US? I don't understand the cult of private healthcare over there, I currently live in Spain, here anyone understands that healthcare isn't a business, for almost 40 years (since 1988), social security has covered this expense, we all have the right to be parents

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We had to pay $35,000 just to attempt IVF to have our first son

Fuck, I'm sorry man. Hope it worked out in the end

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