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727 sats \ 7 replies \ @clr 28 Apr 2023 \ on: SN feature bounty: chatgpt summaries of articles meta
Please don't bring that DemonGPT here. It's funny how bitcoiners are preaching 'run your own node' and so on and then some want to give these overlords all the power. They call themselves OpenAI but there is nothing open about them. Maybe if you could host your own model and control what data is fed into it to train it, I would have a different opinion. In its current status, DemonGPT is biased with woke and mainstream culture, and Sam Altman and his acolytes get to profit from everyone's effort (the queries made to DemonGPT are used to improve the model).
Remember, DemonGPT is controlled by the same person who:
- Has co-founded Worldcoin, where they give us one token in exchange for our biometric data and they get to keep the other two billion tokens. And now they want to use their 'orb' to verify that we are human to tell us apart from AI.
- Has invested in a company (Helion) that demands covid vaccine. See https://archive.is/l3rz9 at the bottom: "Please note that we require all visitors to be up to date on their COVID vaccination or wear a mask for the duration of their stay."
- Is deep into the fiat oligarchy (his WEF profile, comes from Y Combinator)
Why on earth do you want to bow before the very system and people that are enslaving us and give them all the power? They want to use their AI to see if they can keep their clown fiat world running for another 50 years or so before it collapses.
this should be the top comment
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What if another AI model is used? Open source and self-hosted?
Are you just against OpenAI or against AI / LLM in general?
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The genie of AI itself is already out of the bottle, so it's impossible to put it back in. But it can be used in positive ways.
What I fear is that a company monopolizes it. The more people use ChatGPT, the "better" it becomes; it's a positive feedback loop. It's the same problem than with centralized social media, but supercharged: the network effect creates a monopoly. Now we are starting to free ourselves from the shackles of FB, Meta, Twitter et al. thanks to the Nostr protocol. I don't want to see the same mistake being made with AI. With social media, people would pay with their data. Now people are going to pay OpenAI with money+data, so worse.
I think it's better to not rush things and deploy AI locally, on your own hardware, with open source code and open source training dataset. Granted, it won't be as "good" as ChatGPT, but you won't become a slave. This whole debate seems like a déjà-vu: voice assistants, cloud, etc. We were told that centralized systems could improve faster, true, but now we know that having a microphone listening or putting private data in the cloud wasn't a good idea after all.
What good is having freedom money (bitcoin) if centralized AI controls you? Convenience vs. freedom.
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I totally agree with you. I also see a huge problem with AI becoming (even more) centralized.
However, I see no problem with AI-generated summaries on SN. I think we can find good compromises there. For example, as mentioned, it could be a collapsible section:
The summary should probably be somewhere near related and perhaps be collapsable.
It could also be turned off by default and is only visible to users who turn it on in their settings.
Another option would be that users who want to see AI-generated summaries have to pay a fee.
See discussion about fees here: #170812
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But that's the thing: will it be worth for SN to deploy a local AI farm just for article summaries? I would bet they will take out their credit card and create an account at ChatGPT.
I wonder why all of a sudden article summaries are so badly needed as to justify this abomination. Is it that the VCs want "growth" and "engagement" and SEO? They could simply use AutoGPT to create new users, crawl the web in search of "interesting" articles to post and generate AI comment threads. That way they could achieve "growth" and "engagement" and they wouldn't have to bother with flesh and blood people.
I come here every day because I love authentic content. In fact, the threads I enjoy the most are the ones with personal experiences, reflections, good debate... AI would take that away. No, thanks.
No compromises. You give an inch and they take a mile.
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Totally agree with you. Fortunately, it's not necessary to deploy a local AI farm just to summarize articles.
I shared this one in another comment: https://cocktailpeanut.github.io/dalai/
With LLaMA and Alpaca a "good enough" ChatGPT-like can be run, without feeding the OpenAI beast
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