Does anyone has tried any alternative to easily find accommodation where guests are not required to verify with ID in order to book a place?
1652 sats \ 7 replies \ @go 2 Jun 2023
I'm an AirBNB host, and a bitcoiner. I demand KYC for my rental because of liability. I just declined a $1000 booking because the identity seemed phony. They are different. Tough luck finding a no-ID hospitality business without putting down some serious collateral.
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Thanks for sharing. Just wondering if there's any communities of hosts acepting P2P BTC, maybe? Where trust is build on different values than just an ID.
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To be fair, I think @dad was implying that reputation is the value, not the ID itself. Reputation is how trust is built on something like AirBnB. Reputation is very similar to a "proof-of-work" model. Don't trust, verify... that the person has a reputation of not trashing places.
That said, I don't understand why a reputation system wouldn't work with a Nostr pub key to build your reputation. We can build reputation without it being tied to government ID. Have you considered this @dad?
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Reputation, yes, but also legal liability
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yes agree, but I am looking for alternatives that are currently available
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Tough luck finding a no-ID hospitality business without putting down some serious collateral.
Many motels accept cash. However, there is a trade-off in comfort and cleanliness for anonymity and discretion.
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In my experience, I’ve been to quite a few nice places that didn’t ask for ID at all. But it’s a bit of a wildcard.
I’m not sure however if the OP is asking to avoid ID altogether or just to avoid sending it online/doing KYC at the booking platform.
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In the last few years I have stayed at many apartments and small hotels that have never asked for ID, certainly not online and not even in person. I booked through Booking.com. I don’t use AirBNB because I dislike their lack of transparency in pricing, the forced KYC and their woke culture.
In two occasions, the apartments I booked (on Booking) demanded that I send them a scan of my passport online. Luckily I was able to cancel the reservation both times and find a different place. I have decided to not send ID online as a matter of principle, for two reasons: 1. To avoid hacks/leaks, and 2. Because I don’t want to enable a police state where it becomes normalized to get asked for government ID for every transaction in the course of daily life.
Again, the vast majority of apartments don’t require ID. Granted, in some European countries they will demand ID because they are legally forced to send it to the police. And, sure, large/corporate hotels do require ID at check-in, but never online.
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NostrBnB will crush that highly unethical, scammy "company"
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I suppose that for now it’s just a concept. But, yes, the Nostr replacement for Airbnb and Uber can’t come soon enough. I’m looking forward to get rid of those fiat leeches.
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Have been looking online and only fund HashHouse apparently a network of bit coiners sharing their own owners. 50% to book.. Obviously only accepting BTC
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