134 sats \ 2 replies \ @skreep_ 10 Jun 2023 \ parent \ on: What sub should Stacker News add next? bitcoin
Easiest to consider using a system like defining labels as parents, children and siblings. Sports would be a parent label to Ice Hockey.
Hockey would be considered the child of Sports, sibling to Football and Baseball and so on, and parent to NHL, grandparent to NewYorkRangers. These Family trees are how the network should naturally grow out and be defined.
This also helps because all hockey is sports but not all sports is hockey. All NHL is hockey but not all hockey is NHL.
As the community grows, it could crowd fund binding tags together so when you're whether you're searching Cooking or Tutorials, you would come across a post tagged as [Cooking]+[Tutorial]
Then eventually the Tutorial community crowdfunds their Beginner / Advanced prefix tags when they feel it's worth it. I follow [Beginner]+[Tutorial] and I'm telling the algo I like chains that contain those two labels.
Now my feed shows me more Beginner + [cooking, math, guitar, drums, exercise] + Tutorial.
I can click the Guitar+Tutorial label and tell the algo I don't like these two labels together.
Communities should define their own prefixes and suffixes.
For gaming, there could be prefixes like Retro, PC, Playstation, Xbox, Mobile, Board. It could have suffixes like Review, Discussion, Trailer, Gameplay, Stream etc.
Thanks for thinking about this more!
why do these need to be specific places with rulers?
Why do companies need leaders?
tbh A lot of what you described sounds like the way we are imagining subs. The only difference afaict between subs and tags is ... their creation and not their consumption.
You get into creation here:
I'd imagine users could place a deposit on a label proposal which would need X amount of users to donate a small amount in order to make that a label. Users could even go to a tab of the website where they see a label proposal board, where they pledge maybe 100 sats and pre-follow labels that have been proposed by users. This way the Label system could grow naturally. You could reward users for being founders with a special emblem. Funding for the label could even then be a pool that is used to reward users who post with the newly approved label to kickstart activity using that label.
This sounds a lot like a sub by another name IMO. What do you think, specifically, is bad about subs that's solved with topics?
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Why do companies need leaders?
The "company leaders" in this case would be the leadership team of stacker news, and by contributors to labels who are favorably regarded by their respective communities, so I'm not taking an anarchistic stance that no one should lead or "be in charge" of anything.
This sounds a lot like a sub by another name IMO
Well, it's replacing them so it is similar, but how I'm seeing this is still completely different from how subs work today.
Let's put it this way.. Right now, there are three subs here. Bitcoin, Nostr, and Jobs.
Most people are here because they are bitcoiners, so bitcoin is basically the home page.. then you have jobs, which are for bitcoin+jobs, mostly, and then nostr.
When we're talking about zap transactions on nostr.. which sub is this relevant to? Nostr+Bitcoin, but I have to make a choice and post it in one or both.
You've got people clamoring for a privacy sub, but guess what they'll talk about there? bitcoin privacy. nostr privacy. privacy technology. etc.
The difference lies in that subs are places where these particular posts reside, whereas labels are designations to facilitate them to their audience.
It's like how a tweet is a submission to a place (twitter) but a nostr event is a happening that happens, and if someone is looking for it, they can find it.
On the website with my vision, I click [Videos] and see posts like "Brad makes a Pepperoni Pizza {[Cooking]+[Video]+[Tutorials]}, and God of War: Ragnarok Review {[PC]+[Gaming]+[Video]+[Reviews]} and "Footage from WW2 Colorized {[Historical]+[Military]+[Videos]}
In this system, there isn't actually a place called Videos, or Cooking Video Tutorials, or PC Gaming Video Reviews or Historical Military Videos. and yet, there I am having these posts being facilitated to me, and I can participate in any of these communities.
Particular labels could be more expensive than others, and being more specific should come at at reduced cost. Reason: posting my local election results no one cares about to just [Politics] should be costly, but posting it to [Florida]+[Politics] would be less expensive.
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