I'm not giving up on bitcoiners 🧡, regardless of where they choose to be. I was talking about the Western society. I don't feel I have been treated well by it throughout my life, but that's independent of bitcoin. It's just that bitcoin is bringing all that to light and has set me on a diverging path from the currently prevailing Western values. I guess that had I been treated well by society, now I would feel threatened by bitcoin and I would be one of those bitcoin haters, who knows. So maybe there is a silver lining to the whole thing.

The community aspect you mention is one of the most important things IMO. Is that related to the "Silk Road model" or do you see it as a different thing?

Not ready to move to El Salvador (don't want to be at the mercy of Bukele, and I'm waiting to see how things develop worldwide), but I'm going to visit the country this year for the first time.