Very few people have very interesting things to say against bitcoin. Most of it is ignorance or bad faith arguments.

I find John from Investable Wealth to be clear and sound in his take on the economy and markets. He isn't orange-pilled yet but I suspect he is getting closer.

Bob Murphy is an excellent economist and he is a bitcoiner but also seems to be warm to shipcoins so that is why I'm mentioning him here. He even wrote a book about bitcoin a few years ago. His podcast the Bob Murphy Show is excellent.

Jack Spirko's Survival Podcast is excellent. It is not the typical prepper porn that turns me and most people off. I've learned a ton from listening to his show over the past 3 years now.

The No Agenda show deconstructs the media and over the many years I have followed the show I've been aware of things years before most people in my circles. They don't always get it right but most of the time they do. If nothing else, they usually have an angle on things others miss. And they are entertaining which is the main reason I listen.

I could go on, maybe I will add more later.

I can't resist talking about a couple of your people. I find Vitalik and Taleb to be naive or dishonest. Probably both. I think its good to hear dissenting voices to a certain extent but you can over do it. We are not at the stage where it is hard to find people that aren't bitcoiners. Quite the opposite. What we DO need to do more of is thinking in an adversarial way. Bitcoin might have already won but if it has, we won't know for many years. We need to be thinking about all the ways bitcoin and bitcoiners could be stopped, harmed, or hindered.

I listen to the Breaking Points podcast. One of the hosts had Bitcoin but lost it all in BlockFi and now they're both pretty anti crypto. He makes the classic mistake of associating crypto industry with Bitcoin. Sad that he didn't study more to understand what Bitcoin is

Jack, no doubt.