51 sats \ 3 replies \ @petertodd 20 Aug 2023 \ parent \ on: Trezor partnering with Wasabi damanges its credibility - read on! meta
It very much changes the bottom line. Wasabi doesn't lead to peelchains. When you deposit funds into a Wasabi wallet, in the next coinjoin it splits those funds into different txouts of different values, in a transaction with many more txouts of the same values. That's what provides anonymity.
You are simply wrong.
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1104 sats \ 1 reply \ @rod OP 22 Aug 2023
Peter, I have done extensive research about the subject and I have arrive to my own conclusions base on my research.
  • If you have any serious research with evidence to backup your opinion, please point me in the right direction, always open to learn more and to rectify if I conclude, (by my own research, not trusting no one but my verification) that I am wrong.
  • So far you have only written your opinion and give me a link to a transaction in mempool, which does not address the issue mentioned with the mixer itself
Note
  • For anyone wanting more information about the subject, a developer at oxt.me that has done the work and tested the reported issue with Wasabi wallet, posted his findings in this Twitter thread (I mentioned Laurent in the article above as well):
  • Don't trust verify. Here a good source for anyone to learn more about Bitcoin Privacy:
    • https://bitcoin-only.com/privacy
      • Here you will observe the three recommended coinjoin tools currently available in the market which have been tested extensively with no issues found:
I do not have the truth, no one does, I share with the community my research and findings and invite anyone to an open and honest debate with your research, your evidence, your findings.
And my favorite quote applies in this thread:
'Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact, Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth' Marcus Aurelius
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1010 sats \ 0 replies \ @nopara73 26 Aug 2023
I have done extensive research about the subject
Not extensive enough.
The current version of Wasabi doesn't have peelchains, nor peelchains were a bug in 1.0, but a known compromise of ALL ZeroLink coinjoin implementations, therefore the magic trick of samuri taking out the peel from the coinjoin into the TX0 itself is just that: a magic trick, a deception and you're their audience as your sources are exhausted in the samuri proxy websites and the misleading claims of their lead blockchain analyzer's.
The reason why you aren't seeing us engaging in these conversations is that for many years now, they've been trying hard to associate us with criminal entities: Here's the proof: "wasabi is broken because "BunnyKiller69" famous north korean hacker/scammer/fraudster has been caught and was using wasabi. When you look at such claims individually you'll always find something that doesn't add up. Sadly, their craig wright level techno blabla doesn't often bump into sensible developers like Peter Todd here.
Let me leave you with some statistics and sources to research that you were asking for.
  • Wasabi Wallet's development activity is 100 times larger than Samourai's
  • Wasabi Wallet's Twitter activity is 100 times smaller than Samourai's
To learn about the privacy guarantees of Wasabi Wallet 2.0 and to understand why it has no peelchains: https://blog.wasabiwallet.io/privacy-guarantees-of-wasabi-wallet-2-0
To learn generally about Wasabi and Bitcoin privacy:
https://anonymousbitcoin.com/ https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WasabiResearchExperience https://docs.wasabiwallet.io/
To learn about Samourai Wallet, which is a known bad actor:
https://github.com/nopara73/ScamouraiWallet/blob/master/README.md
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @eespn 22 Aug 2023
The amount of evidence that can be found online about Wasabi is overwhelming, your opinion is just your opinion, you keep defending the undefendable...
Any person that wishes to do a little bit of research will find it.
You are the one that is wrong and your insistence in defending a very well known bad actor in the industry tells tons about you...
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