My Thoughts on Current State of Online-Adoption
1717 sats \ 4 comments \ @tomlaies 23 Aug 2023 bitcoin
  • Products like Stacker News or Fountain are the most successfull in this space currently IMO
  • Products like sats4likes are mid-successful. They server their purpose, just reading likes on Twitter makes this part of sats4likes more or less broken. Also a lot of interaction is logically but unfortunately from bots. I have high hopes of peoples vanity driving Bitcoin adoption.
  • Small communities were Lightning would be perfect have almost no to no adoption. I'm thinking of e.g. the r/estoration subreddit. I would love to earn about minimum wage anonymously and online while watching Netflix and the good feeling of resoring peoples treasured family photos.
  • Building Fiverr-like products or communities is super easy. Unfortunately it seems impossible to convince people of using Lightning although it's the most perfect match ever
  • Lightning-Patreon or Lightning-OnlyFans doesn't exist. At least not in a relevant size
I'm sure there is an explanation for all of these usecases individually. The more important question to me is what the macro reason for this is? Second: Can we expect physical world adoption before online adoption? Yes/No? And if yes - how does this make any sense, what is the underlying reason?
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164 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 23 Aug 2023
I don't use Fountain, but I think the success of Stacker News owes to the quality of the users, as well as an easy and clean interface and the ability to earn sats for an activity you'd be engaged in anyway.
Its main competitor is probably r/bitcoin, which has lower quality posts and doesn't earn you anything.
You can't easily replicate stacker.news for a community like r/estoration because the userbase isn't already onboarded to Bitcoin the way SN userbase is.
As for job markets like Fiverr, the problem is likely that the network effect is too small. Both employers and workers need a platform of sufficient scale to find good matches.
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115 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 23 Aug 2023
This post omits a lot of the zap and paid relay stuff happening on nostr which is another strong online adoption venue.
  • Building Fiverr-like products or communities is super easy. Unfortunately it seems impossible to convince people of using Lightning although it's the most perfect match ever
  • Lightning-Patreon or Lightning-OnlyFans doesn't exist. At least not in a relevant size
Double-sided markets like these are more than double-difficult to get off the ground. I expect them to come later.
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127 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 23 Aug 2023
I think it's pretty obvious we'll see significant online adoption first, which is why I'm kind of impressed by how few protocol developers (and other people serious about bitcoin adoption) use these products.
Maybe it's just early, but I think they might feel anything other than state level adoption is below them.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @drlh 23 Aug 2023
Lightning-Patreon or Lightning-OnlyFans doesn't exist. At least not in a relevant size
not like patreon or onlyfans, but you can schedule recurring payments: https://zapplanner.albylabs.com/
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