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2535 sats \ 13 replies \ @k00b 1 Sep 2023 \ on: Legitimate criticisms of Nostr nostr
Strong butthead energy. Gets it just enough to think he can critique it.
I don't think any client does this. Nearly all of them are noncustodial. They do have NWC strings but you can limit those.
Eh this is like a scottish egg but with a turd on the inside.
wut
This is just untrue. Notes can reference each other.
They need to be better organized - for sure - but experimenting ain't free dude.
TIL: You can call someone a butthead without calling them a butthead.
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Nice. I will use that tactic and prepend an adjective like 'strong' and append a noun like 'energy' when I need to harshly critic something. My other favorite is 'Bless your heart.'
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"Strong not-as-correct-as-your-husband vibes"
Yep. This will work.
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i will say the following:
i hadn't used nostr since april, then went back recently. nostrgram.co had stopped working correctly and wasn't showing anything since april. i'd sent some messages through it as DM's, and could not see them on nostgram. i even tried on iris.
iris was showing new content from others, but i could not for the life of me figure out how to display 'likes', or 'replies.' it just appears now to be one giant amalgam of "favorites and replies and some mass of streaming posts from people all in one place." (i may be wrong but it looks like the dev broke it, and simultaneously tried to organize it better, but failed.)
i ended up remembering snort.social and that indeed allowed me to send new DM's and get a response.
so that's interesting.
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Re: messages getting lost in time.. Can we really expect that every message posted to nostr will be stored by somebody forever? Doesn't seem realistic. In theory torrents also last forever thanks to the decentralized nature, but in practice they die pretty fast.
Happy to be corrected on this. I'm still learning about nostr myself.
Edit: think I may have misunderstood what "lost in time" meant in this context, but my point about data permanence stands.
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If he's talking about data permanence, they are probabilistically lost not certainly lost, ie they could be lost in time and if you were to store them yourself they wouldn't need be lost at all.
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Probabilistically lost is pretty much as bad as certainly lost if you're trying to store anything important. That demo that popped up storing a decentralized password manager comes to mind.
I think there's a lot of space for using nostr as a communications protocol for short-lived stuff, but I still have a lot of questionmarks about Twitter-like implementations where data can be impermanent
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I still have a lot of questionmarks about Twitter-like implementations where data can be impermanent
data is impermanent on twitter too
if you don't self-host whatever you find important, don't expect someone else to host it for you
unless they find it important too they will eventually delete it (e.g. when they stop profiting from it)
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I don't disagree.
It's early though. I suspect some high probability of permanence can be achieved with incentives eventually.
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I hope so. The possibilities of nostr dramatically rise with the promise of permanence. Use cases far beyond simple social media stuff.
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That's what's kind of cool about open protocol development. Up only™️ until people lose interest or hit a serious road block. Nostr is wildly underutilizing bitcoin imo but they aren't ready to accept the tradeoffs of that yet I don't think ... they need to hit some road blocks first.
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