Here's the deal on MANY people that are "bearish" on value for value. They really aren't. If they were they wouldn't be bitcoiners. They are bearish on V4V working for their podcast. By working I mean they won't make as much money. This is currently true for many podcasts that are attractive to advertisers. But there are many podcasts that are not "brand safe". There are many that have value but we don't know how much or how little. V4V is simply the free market. Also, V4V is more than podcasting. V4V when applied to media is different from the traditional ad model. In order for V4V to work at scale it requires a money like bitcoin. It requires a network like Lighting. It also requires people to internalize the idea that their time is worth something and that the information they consume has value. The vast majority of people still do not get this. The shortest way I can explain it is fiat brain.