It will reverse when the bombs drop

I agree with the trend up to 2000, but keeping the date range all the way back to 10,000 BCE gives a very skewed/hard-to-interpret perspective, imo. I'd prefer to see more recent history (e.g. the last ~500 years)

I'm also very curious about what has happened since the internet/broadband/mobile went mainstream (not captured by this chart which ends in 2000. And specifically if/how Covid had an impact starting in 2020.

I think the most sensitive variable in predicting this trend well will be how successful/mainstream Apple Vision Pro and the like competitors are.

I'd like to see a chart of about 100 years. Post covid in particular

Most people just don't understand how much more pleasant life is outside of a city. Much cheaper too. Overall, just a better quality of life. Maybe it's not for everyone, I get it, but if you are able to consider such a move (even temporarily to try) it's highly recommended.

Also, not all country sides or small towns are created equal. Do your research and I'm sure you'll enjoy what you find.

The trend will reverse if/when:

I suspect it will level out but I doubt it will reverse. What is more interesting to me is thinking about new cities vs growth of massive cities. I think cities start to have serious issues once they reach a certain population and one solution is to have more smaller cities vs. the current number of urban cities.

major cities have naturally grown surrounding areas with high economic energy (ie coastal areas with ports for trade), and until bitcoin, that economic energy was more geographically dependent.

Now that we can generate higher economic activity in relatively uninhabited places where bitcoin mining can take place, i imagine larger communities/cities will rise up around those bitcoin hotspots. Hard to tell how large of an economic boom a bitcoin mining operation in the jungle could cause, but i imagine it will surprise all of us.

maybe i have this all wrong i am not sure

I think it will eventually reach something of an equilibrium. Maybe 80% cities 20% rural? Regardless, I don't think it will end up reversing. Too much economically valuable going on in cities for most people to resist

If we're maintaining a consistent definition of "urbanization" over the whole time frame, then more and more people will live in urban areas as population continues to rise.

The trend in the US is moving to mid-size metropolitan areas from both large metros and rural communities. The net effect is greater urbanization.

Difficult to imagine it reversing.

One big pain of living in the country today is that you still need lots of physical infrastructure like sewage, internet, electricity, water, etc…

There are lots of new ideas taking stabs at making these services easy to install anywhere (Starlink is the most successful example), but as long as one piece of infrastructure isn’t available it can totally derail the build of a country home.

A related question is how long will it be before we have off-grid homes that don’t have to sacrifice on any of the first-world comforts most city dwellers have come to enjoy?

In my opinion people will return to villages and small agro communities once permaculture goes viral 🌱 for this, like bitcoin, I think that its success depends on implementing it in Africa, will being an example for the rest of the countries 🌎

Cities are shitcoins.

When I have made a good amount of money starting in the city, I will retire to an rural area where I can leisurely enjoy myself and help build the community

So Tenochtitlan was not an urbanized area?

I honestly think Zoom was the tipping point. During the plandemic when everyone was scared the cities were not a good place to be and everyone instictually knew that. Then came Zoom and suddenly schools, workplaces, and everything else we gathered for could be done remotely.

Urban real estate started dropping off LIKE CRAZY. I don't have the stats but it wasn't just down a tick, it was like 50% off in places like Manhattan. Sure, it's recovered a bit but what a solid entry that was.

So the trend has already started reversing; most of us can work from absolutely anywhere, even as a team member. It's obviously never going to even out completely but those who prefer city life can all live in cities while those who prefer life on mountaintops or beach front can live there as well, despite our jobs.

I think Japan which is facing an alarming drop in population is advocating that its citizens move back to rural areas. Some rural towns and cities have tried to jazz up their image as well as monetary incentives; they have been successful to varying degrees of success.

But on the whole, I think the trend of rural-urban migration is set to increase because the cosmopolitan cities are where all the opportunities are. I watched a video about how Seoul is akin to a black hole because it sucks up all the major resources in the country, creating an overly heavy reliance on its services. People don’t necessarily like Seoul cos of its high cost of living but they feel that they have no choice but to move

Things should revert to the mean, but I don't see it happening anytime soon, people come to cities for the opportunity, they stuck in the city due to the property they own and pay off.

They enjoy a certain lifestyle and network effect of education, jobs, transport, finance, and highly dense community and it can be great until it's not, eventually, you reach a point where you oversaturate one place and it begins to decay, homelessness increases and so does crime

I think it reverses in different places for different reasons, some will be due to city decay, some will be new towns/cities starting up offering incentives to move, unlocking of new resources creating new opportunities, people wanting a better deal for their money in terms of property cost, service delivery and influence on a local level

Not a single argument here.

Just people guessing blindly and something something "internet" something something "vibes" 😂😂

I seriously doubt it where because in the cities is where the most opportunities lie

I don’t think it will reverse. The county lacks the goods and services that come when you surround yourself with more people. The only way I can see the trend reversing is out of necessity for needs like food and water. Other than that people like the convenience that comes with cites.

Looks Similar to the M2 money supply: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL