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361 sats \ 0 replies \ @davidw 17 Jan 2024
Sounds like it won’t be for long. Email is hard, and SMTP a really shitty protocol. But really glad that people can figure this stuff out and pressure companies into reconsidering their dependencies.
The forum states that Proton uses Zendesk for email distribution, so even the companies with the best intentions find it hard not to cut corners these days. Always reminded that building your own tech stack is tough, especially without depending on other people’s code or services.
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200 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 17 Jan 2024
Remember, that any privacy service of size is most likely an intel agency honeypot.
You cannot buy privacy, and you should not expect privacy from large VPN providers.
They're fine for obfuscating your country of origin for getting around geo-fences etc, but if their using big-cloud services is a red flag, you should reconsider what you're using them for in the first place.
Privacy will not be sold to you by a commodity vendor that has resources to buy infinite content creators on YouTube.
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1561 sats \ 1 reply \ @petertodd 17 Jan 2024
Mullvad is not a VPN with “resources to buy infinite content creators on YouTube”. They're just not one of those VPNs. They're smallish, and have a long and verifiable track record of contributing actual code and other resources to privacy improving projects. That's a proof of work that is good evidence against them being some covert op. And of course, you can pay with Bitcoin and Monero (they do need to add Lightning support though; you can pay with Lightning via a third party).
Personally I use https://ivpn.net because they do support Lightning. Using it right now.
As for complaints about their email hosting... So what? I've never had to send Mullvad or iVPN an email. Their services work 99.9% of the time. It's ok to not be perfect; running email at their scale is a pain and I'm sure they have more important things to work on.
Frankly all the anti-VPN propaganda smells like a covert op in of itself. VPNs clearly make it more difficult for websites and governments to track you by hiding IP addresses in a large k-anonymity set. It's probably true that governments try to compromise VPNs, same as they do to ISPs. But they do that because VPNs work. Not because they don't.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 17 Jan 2024
I might be confusing it with Nord which does spend a fortune on YouTube, but wouldn't call Mullvad small on a relative basis, point is it's not obscure enough to be trusted for critical privacy concerns.
Agreed, my point was if you do in fact care about their email provider then you probably shouldn't be using it in the first place.
It's just the straight dope... the realm of privacy is filled with so much larp because people are generally too lazy or uninformed to think about what they're trying to achieve exactly.
Sure, VPN's aren't inherently useless, but they're also not the the right tool for the job if you're someone who has to worry about them using gmail.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 17 Jan 2024
There goes the neighborhood...lol Ever heard of Protonmail? Maybe a better alternative... just shooting from the hip here...
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