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132 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 21 Jan \ parent \ on: Fighting The Cancer Of Society culture

This is why building parallel institutions is so valuable. We don't need to convince everyone of our views, if we can give people ways to live around the state rather than under it.

432 sats \ 3 replies \ @shado_op 22 Jan

I think this is the key. History is full of examples of people "doing it for themselves", not relying on the State. Eg in europe, many of the large financial services insurers etc started as mutuals, ie self help, by local communities. They're a long way from that now (!), but I think rediscovering our history is helpful to show it can be done...

458 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 22 Jan

We are all collaborators. It's the choice of collaboration that increases the reward of volunteering and self responsibility. Like if you are a governor worker, a military guy and even an executioner, you will wake up one day and realize your work is meaningful to the people but not to the government. Then you put down your sword for them and pick it up for you.

Better to do work for people who also feel the same.

77 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 22 Jan

examples of people "doing it for themselves"

Made me think of how so much of the Netherlands was literally under the ocean until some people realized it could be homesteaded because it wasn't locked into any feudal arrangement.

53 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 22 Jan

We are grateful for the giants before us.

63 sats \ 2 replies \ @TomK OP 21 Jan

Building of independent communities if I get You right? With BTC as kind if a base layer...

35 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 21 Jan

There are lots of different examples, but something like that. It will look different depending on the place, since the state overreaches will be different.

In the US there are a bunch of non-bitcoin examples, like independent media or medical practices that don't participate in the government medical programs.

Bitcoin and nostr are definitely powerful forces to build on for these projects.

525 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 21 Jan

Yes, there are quite a few people who work in and out of the "system". The trap is the "in" part that we all have to do. Any "in" legitimizes the state and yet there is always some conduit of touch. This is where human relationships become important. All the top state actors constantly work around the state by using the state.

It's the devil you know.