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what can you point us to that's in the wild/usable today?
Here are my top 6 favorite scaling solutions that work right now:
  1. Lightning [your own node - self custodial]
  2. Statechains [custodial by default but can be self-custodial if the operator is honest, I don't know any way to verify that though]
  3. Fedimint-run-by-one-person [custodial, no caveats]
  4. Fedimint-run-by-a-federation [custodial, no caveats]
  5. Federated sidechains [custodial, no caveats]
  6. Lightning [someone else's node -- custodial, no caveats]
I like all of these options.
I am working on others, including bitvm, that are not ready yet. I wish it will be better than lightning. But I can't be sure yet, or even confident. We'll see.
thank you sir. I took from other comment that you were against all these current scaling options, particularly fedimints, is that the case?
I'm interested in fedimints to see what they offer. But I have also been reading about statechains. I'm not technical enough to really get all of them, I just want to play with them all and see.
I'm really looking forward to what gets built out over next decade or so ☺
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I took from other comment that you were against all these current scaling options, particularly fedimints, is that the case?
No, I think fedimints are incredibly cool, probably the biggest breakthrough in multisig technology in the last five years. I particularly like that the fedimint software was designed from the ground up to support lightning without the members of the fedimint needing to trust the lightning node operator with their money. That gives it similar properties to a federated lightning node and can probably serve a lot of the same use cases. I also think Mutiny deserves some kind of award for integrating it into their wallet. They are doing amazing things and I'm very proud of them.
I just don't like hiding the risks. The fedimint software is just as custodial as the software Coinbase uses to manage their multisig vault. Telling people that a fedimint "counts" as non-custodial (or close enough) seems dangerous to me and is likely to get people rekt. If folks are fooled into thinking fedimints are inherently safer than "regular" custodians, I predict scammers will soon run fedimint software to steal people's funds under the guise of "you can deposit your money here, it's safe, it's a fedimint, stealing your money would be super duper hard!" Unfortunately it's all too easy, because it's custodial software.
I know that when I go into rants like that it sounds like I disapprove of custodial software such as fedimints. But I don't disapprove of them. I think they are very cool and useful, I just want users to be clear about the risks and know that it is experimental custodial software, and, like all custodial software (and most non-custodial software too), if they put any money in it, they should be prepared to lose it.
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right, that makes total sense. thank you.
I think I agree with you about needing to make risks as apparent as possible. I don't like the risk of their supply not being auditable.
I'm also mad keen to see what happens with mutiny, can't wait.
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