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Nah. Most implementations already support most of these. PTLCs will take longer, but there are ways to mitigate proof of payments.

When protocol features need network wide support, it turns into a forever waiting game. It does not matter if other implementations have this support when they're at most 5% of the nodes on the network. Until you can reliably route onion messages and have senders speak onion messages/async, it won't happen.

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But that's not the case here. You can easily run lndk to get onion messages. We're still early, and you think you can influence the adoption, you're wrong.

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We've both given up on LND. Ofc I still applaud the efforts and a move towards something better, I'm just pessimistic and have grown tired of asking.

You can easily run lndk to get onion messages

I'll believe it when I see it more. Are you running it and do you know of any others running it in production currently?

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Still in our staging, soon hopefully

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