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California could require car ‘governors’ that limit speeding to 10mph over limit www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/car-speed-governors-bill-18624126.php

3252 sats \ 22 comments \ @kr 25 Jan tech

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1693 sats \ 7 replies \ @kepford 25 Jan

Oh course this is the next step. These people are control freaks.

What happens if you are a woman are being chased by a violent boyfriend?
What happens if you need to get your child to the hospital and there is no time for the ambulance?
What happens if you need to speed up to avoid being hit by a reckless driver?
What happens if someone hacks the database that communicates speed limits to the cars and creates gridlock?

I could go on. The incentives in a democracy lead to this type of bill being created. The stack of laws on the books is massive. So as a politician seeking to move up in status what do you do? Well you look at a problem or even perceived problem and propose a solution. It doesn't matter if your solution makes sense, has unintended consequences, or even makes any difference at all. What matters is that your voters think you care. That you are "doing something".

When election time comes up this dude will point to how he tried to make the roads safer because he cares about your kids. He will say other nonsense like this and gullible people gobble it up.

Its also beautiful for those that see the problems with his proposal. They can run against him saying how horrible this idea was. Or that he didn't get it passed. He's not effective.

The whole affair is tiresome.

And for those thinking, well this is California. California is just about 5-10 years ahead of most states in their stupid legislation. Your governments are not for the most part heading in the opposite direction. Conservatives will not save you. They are just... going the speed limit. They do not recognize that the problem is bigger than "the democrats". They are part of the same problem.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 25 Jan

5-10 years ahead is key, most blue states seem to be following even faster into their insanity. You can't even move away from CA to get away from some of their bullshit.

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr OP 25 Jan

you make good points.

another point worth raising is that even the initial claim that this will make roads safer is suspect. the autobahn has a better safety record than the average american highway without any speed restrictions.

https://www.ultimatedrivingtours.com/autobahn-germany/

796 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 25 Jan

Great point. Some time ago I heard a guy that designs roads in Europe explain his methods for making roads safer. The TLDR was that designing roads that require people to be alert reduces fatalities. So it is kinda the opposite of what you would think. Long straight roads are far more dangerous than roads with curves. Due to people not relaxing.

But politicians are not incentivized to really research their "solutions". They don't really have skin in the game. Worst thing that could happen is that they lose an election. Most of the time these things they propose don't even happen but they can say. I tried... but those dang republicans blocked me.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @rarson 26 Jan

This. Along the same lines, as drivers get worse at paying attention and actual driving, more and more cars are being equipped with nanny devices like automatic braking and lane keep assist. This just encourages bad drivers to keep developing bad driving habits. It also introduces more potential for unintended behavior of the vehicle.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @m00ninite 25 Jan

Yea, it's 100% political posturing.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 26 Jan

The arrogance of politicians and public officials still blows my mind. I can't imagine wanting this kind of power to make decisions that affect millions of lives. There are only two explanations that make sense to me. Stupidity and evil.

When you take away people's freedom by force you insert yourself into things you have no business in. Yes, doing nothing has consequences but forcing a whole population into one path with virtually no thought of the consequences is just another day at the office for politicians.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 26 Jan

What matters is that your voters think you care. That you are "doing something".

This sounds very similar to what @jimmysong described in this post: Fiat Games on Bitcoin

775 sats \ 0 replies \ @cleaningup12 25 Jan

So we'll see cars taking 5 minutes to overtake each other like the semi's do 😂😂

Imagine passing so slowly that you gingerly look right and make eye contact!!

LOOK AHEAD AHEAD!!!!

850 sats \ 2 replies \ @OriginalSize 25 Jan

I would never buy a car with such a state-mandated anti-feature. Can't go over 80 on a 70? I predict this will be a boon for the classic (offline) car economy.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @rarson 26 Jan

There are many, many reasons to avoid buying a new car: always-on data connections (either to the internet or to the manufacturer, who can add or remove features at will), nanny features like automatic braking and lane assist that take control of the car out of your hands, endless amount of sensors whose sole purpose seems to be to make the car inoperable so that you have to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars to get it fixed, etc.

I'd rather drive a 1990 Ford Fiesta.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 25 Jan

agree, but rather than push people to buy old cars i think it will push people to buy electric bikes and scooters that don’t require licensing at all

539 sats \ 2 replies \ @0245bdaef2 25 Jan

Ask John Deere how shit like this tends to go

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 25 Jan

not aware of the reference, can you elaborate?

738 sats \ 0 replies \ @0245bdaef2 25 Jan

https://hackaday.com/2022/08/17/did-you-see-a-john-deere-tractor-cracked-at-def-con/

470 sats \ 2 replies \ @m00ninite 25 Jan

Really doubt anything like this passes. It's too much of an overreach and is logistically absurd.

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 25 Jan

agree

278 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 26 Jan

It is California though… if there is a way to increase regulatory capture and nonsense in this state we will implement it 🤔

181 sats \ 0 replies \ @kurszusz 26 Jan

Hm...they try anything to control us... Also in some European countries this topic was a subject of discussion, but seems like no decision has been made at this time.

Btw. @kr congrats for your almost 1 year active cowboy streak! ;)

278 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 25 Jan

Many things COULD be done to modern cars. Many have been discussed. The smarter your car the more easy it is to be controlled.

278 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 25 Jan

F***ing California man. Just fire all the damn legislators it's like they have nothing better to do than pry into people's lives for no reason.

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @Voldemort 25 Jan

Great! This means mean CA can reduce the budget of their police since fewer officers will be needed to patrol speeding.

I hope the sarcasm was obvious