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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @hodlpleb 26 Jan \ on: Last Pay Wins: ongoing game (play responsibly) lightning
Bro why are the fees like 4,000-6,000 sats per payment ?
What? Are you using Phoenix maybe?
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How much did you pay in fees in total?
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Just tipped you the fees...
Don't use Muun. Muun is not a real Lightning Wallet. Last time I heard, they use submarine swaps, which can get very expensive when onchain fees are high... custodial getalby (as browser extention) or Wallet of Satoshis will do just fine for small amounts.
Phoenix is a real non-custodial lightning wallet, but fees can also become elevated when onchain fees are high and your initial channel doesn't have hihg enough capacity. If using phoenix, you should start with a large payment the first time to make sure it opens a large channel. I think, to be confirmed by other users of Phoenix.
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That being said, Muun was one of the first non custodial ln wallets. It just turned out that some strategic choices they made can get expensive in high onchain fee environments. But they did advance the field and provided a pretty smooth experience from what i remember
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Muun makes an on-chain payment for every Lightning payment under the hood. Wouldn’t recommend it for frequent spending.
Try Breez or Phoenix for a non-custodial option
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