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2185 sats \ 37 comments \ @kr 30 Jan tech

Elon just announced that Neuralink’s first product will be called Telepathy.

He said on X:

Enables control of your phone or computer, and through them almost any device, just by thinking. Initial users will be those who have lost the use of their limbs. Imagine if Stephen Hawking could communicate faster than a speed typist or auctioneer. That is the goal.

I also found this article from 2022 with some high level thoughts about the business for those who aren’t familiar.

What do you think? Would you be open to getting a chip in your brain to have this level of control?

Yes7.4%

No80.9%

Maybe 11.8%

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3827 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bitman 30 Jan freebie

I might be breaking my anonymity a little here but I do have problems controlling my limbs (and my speech). This has been a worsening problem since Genesis block. I've gone hours without being able to move, and when I can it's pretty sporadic each and every day.

Although I might be the most likely to benefit from this, I've still got certain reservations about it. But my reservations are beginning to thaw.

I've seen videos of people without a limb where they can pick up items using their mind.

I'm sure that the technology will quickly advance as the AI used in this technology advances.

So, for the time being, I'm only voting 'maybe' - only because I'm not gonna be a guinea pig.

But I'll certainly be watching this space closely and keep an open mind.

I guess as I get older, and my health deteriorates further, I'll come to a point where I feel I've got nothing to lose - but try it.

It does sound pretty cool. I'm a bit conservative regarding experimenting with my health though...

66 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

appreciate the nuanced answer, i think humans have a natural tendency to think in black and white but i respect the open-mindedness here (no pun intended)

322 sats \ 1 reply \ @398ja 30 Jan

I don't know much about this tech, and haven't read the article yet, but I was thinking yesterday about how when relying on external "crutches" to achieve something, our body stops mobilising the internal resources needed for that same function, and increasingly become dependent on the crutch. Kind of "use it or lose it"

I can see the case for people who have already lost the use of their limbs, but for the rest, I'm worried it could be detrimental for example to their hand-eye coordination, and what the unintended consequences would be.

I'll vote "NO" for now, but might change my mind after I read more on the topic.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

you make a great point, hadn’t considered the use it or lose it aspect before

492 sats \ 4 replies \ @DEADBEEF 30 Jan

That’s going to be a hard pass for me. I don’t want to be forced into invasive upgrades every few years when my chip is out of date.

Also I don’t trust big tech to not use it to spy on me or lock basic functionality behind micro transactions or subscriptions.

86 sats \ 3 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

fair enough, never thought about the process of needing to upgrade a chip once it became obsolete

345 sats \ 2 replies \ @DEADBEEF 30 Jan

I would probably feel a little better if it was something noninvasive that you could wear and take off anytime.

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 30 Jan

has this announcement changed your views on whether you’ll get an apple vision pro or similar devices?

825 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 30 Jan

Not really. I’ve tried VR/AR headsets before and while the tech is cool (especially the Vision Pro based on what I’ve heard) there’s no killer app that would make my life better or easier.

The AR/VR device category is still quite young, however, so I could see that changing in 5-10 years. Especially if they can get the tech to fit into regular eye glasses.

For now I’m taking a wait and see approach.

492 sats \ 3 replies \ @SwearyDoctor 30 Jan

for -me- to -have- control sure. not at all a corporate product where "terms and conditions" will now apply to my thoughts.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

fair enough.

what do you think the odds are that Neuralink delivers a product like the one you’re describing?

482 sats \ 1 reply \ @SwearyDoctor 30 Jan

you said, "Would you be open to getting a chip in your brain to have this level of control?" I mean, they'll sell it as something -I- control, but as a corporate product, of course I won't be the one in control. We never are in control with corporate products. Do you know the short story "unauthorized bread"? https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

hadn’t seen that story before, thanks for sharing!

92 sats \ 1 reply \ @windward 30 Jan

there's a little too much hype. I'm cool with such a product existing, as long as they are honest about what it actually entails. As I read more about testing it seems like a large portion of their animal subjects died due to complications from the neuralink- I would want longevity testing before putting it in people.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

makes sense

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 30 Jan

I would only buy a device like that if they offer full access to the data, with no need for subscriptions or accounts, even if they are free.

This reminded me of Galea, a nice EEG device and Mixed Reality headset all in one

https://galea.co

The Bridge Between Mixed Reality and Neurotechnology

https://assets-web-varjo.s3.eu-north-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/27124826/HERO_1_LIGHT-1536x864.jpg

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheBTCManual 30 Jan

Personally no, even if I was in a position where it could improve the quality of my life, I'd much prefer to go all natural

293 sats \ 3 replies \ @piecover 30 Jan

F*ck no, Wechat elon would know your Bitcoin private key and much more

24 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 30 Jan

yup was looking for the No vs HELL NO option.

99 sats \ 0 replies \ @piecover 30 Jan

Def.

3 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

and much more

😂

28 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 30 Jan

FUCK no. This is straight up Mark of the Beast level shit they are trying to pull.

43 sats \ 2 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

between this kind of mind control stuff and all the AR/VR innovation going on these days, it seems like the days of using fingers to type stuff on a computer are coming to an end.

feels like progress, but to me the apple vision pro is looking like a much more appealing option than it did last week.

430 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 30 Jan

I remain skeptical that the days of using fingers are over. My fingers are not the barrier to speed though. Its between the ears.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

fair enough, i mostly find i’m constrained by my typing speed on mobile… it’s also much easier to accidentally tap the wrong button on a smaller screen.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @PRA3S3NT1A 30 Jan

I am good thanks

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @0245bdaef2 30 Jan

Based on the build quality of Tesla vehicles I might wait a few generations or until Elon is no longer at the helm.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @hodlpleb 30 Jan

FUCK NO

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 30 Jan

If we were to ever live in a world where open-source versions of this tech existed, maybe. But we probably won't, so...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 30 Jan freebie

I instantly said no but i should have said maybe because i only vaguely know what it is.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Atreus 30 Jan freebie

Never put anything in your brain you don't control.

Peak clown world reached when this needs to be said.

242 sats \ 4 replies \ @RepublicansSmellLikeTrumpsDiaper 30 Jan

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490 sats \ 3 replies \ @kr OP 30 Jan

Why would this even be a consideration when he can't even manage to not kill monkeys with it yet?

It would be a consideration because we are in day one of this entire chip implant industry.

i don’t have enough information to completely eliminate the possibility of trying this device today, but you seem to have already made up your mind.