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45 sats \ 8 replies \ @grayruby 13 Feb \ on: ABORTION and GUNS poll culture
Are we talking ideologically or legislatively?
Ideologically, it'd be great if we lived in a world where none of it was necessary. Pregnancies were all planned. And there was never a need to have to defend yourself with weapons of any kind.
Legislatively, I don't believe the govt should be allowed to dictate a persons autonomy over their own body or their belongings.
But I recognise that what we're discussing is the nuance between the perfect and the practical.
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My gut reaction is ideologically I don't like abortion or guns. Although I see the necessity for both in certain cases. I have no problem with and support the right of a gun to protect your home but I don't like gun obsession and gun culture. By the same token I support the right for a woman to have an abortion even though I despise the idea outside of very rare cases (let's be honest the incest, rape, danger to the mother's life, edge cases really are a very small fraction of the cases).
Legislatively, I think there is no way for the government to get either issue correct and both issues are totally corrupted by special interest groups so should probably for the most part stay out of it other than baseline legislation almost all of us can agree on. (i.e my 5 year old probably shouldn't be permitted to own a gun and a woman probably shouldn't be able to say "off with it's head" as the baby is being born).
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From your response about "gun culture" and "gun obsession", I know that you have never handled, let alone used, a firearm before. If you have an open mind and were humble enough to accept Bitcoin, I think you will have a change of heart about guns if you study enough...go down the gun rabbit hole.
A gun is a tool of liberation, and of freedom, for many people, in the same way that Bitcoin is. Non-violent people are no longer at the mercy of the violent.
Security is not much concern in homogenous, high trust societies like Switzerland and Japan, but many places, including the USA, have many "cultures" and have a huge underclass, that has been programmed to prey on "the others", including physical violence.
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I used to go skeet shooting with my grandfather in Florida when he was alive. I have many friends who are part of gun clubs here in Canada who I have gone to those clubs with. I have pics on my camera roll on my phone of me shooting an AR-15 before they were banned in Canada with one of my buddies who competes in target shooting. My father in law is a Vietnam vet and I have gone to the range with him multiple times while in Texas but please go on about how "I have never handled, let alone used a firearm".
You might have made some good points in your comment but I ignored the rest of it after you decided to make presumptions about me.
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I'm a free speech absolutist and a property absolutist. The government shouldn't decide what I own.
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OK, I am surprised, its hard for me to understand how you can say "gun obsession" like its a bad thing. Almost everyone I've met has done a full 180 on guns once they are introduced to actually using them. Sorry for presumptions.
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I recognized after the fact that using terminology like “gun culture” and “gun obsessed” made sound like my crazy liberal neighbors who thought I should be scared walking around Texas because everyone had guns. Probably not the best way to describe the difference between my respect for the right to bare arms and my wife’s family and some of my friends who are gun aficionado’s and have houses full of firearms. If that’s your thing, it’s your thing.
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