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What do you think about governments banning or taxing tobacco?

142 sats \ 10 comments \ @joda 18 Feb libertarian

Including banning the marketing of flavored tobacco to children

I'd say there really isn't anything wrong with the tobacco until big industry gets a hold of it. After they get done adulterating the tobacco with a bunch of crap that shouldn't be in it, it really isn't fit for anyone.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @joda OP 18 Feb

So do you think government should regulate ingredients and quality?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @AJ1992 18 Feb

Agreed with this. But as a smoker myself the natural cigarettes like American Spirits are the ones that make me feel icky. So I guess I'm too used to the processed crap lol.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @co574 18 Feb

They need to introduce cannabis fast, so when you will own nothing you can be happy. (that’s on top of a UBI)

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @AJ1992 18 Feb

The government will never ban tobacco as a whole. Zero chance the big tobacco lobby let's that happen. As a smoker myself, it's the flavored cigarettes, the Marlboro smooths which taste like mint chocolate chip ice cream that got me hooked at 15...so I am okay with that and am glad England did what they did as well. Vaping is actually worse for you if you do the proper research.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ZezzebbulTheMysterious 18 Feb

No, it is not. It’s not even close. Think about it for 30 seconds — nicotine + pg/vg + flavor is always going to be less harmful than burned plant material. It’s food grade additives + insect poison, vs cancerous combusted carbon material + insect poison.

You can argue that it’s not harmless — but to say it is worse is just unscientific.

Stop burning tobacco.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @AJ1992 19 Feb

You have to factor in the fact that these kids can vape essentially anywhere and indoors and are also vaping non-stop and their nicotine intake is way way more. As smokers, we have to go outdoors, only smoke one at a time usually, and wait periods of time between cigarettes.

Also, I don't see smokers getting popcorn lung..🤷‍♂️

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ZezzebbulTheMysterious 19 Feb

Re the popcorn lung thing, that was due to tainted juice with diacetyl produced juice. Many years ago. It’s banned in regulated juices.

With vaping, the problem becomes a moral one to do with addiction — they can do it anywhere. So the problem is problem for addiction sake. Gets deep into authoritarianism.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheBTCManual 19 Feb

Why would you ban a revenue driver? They'll just keep slapping a premium on it and people will pay for it because they are addicted. If I look at the premiums people were willing to pay for black market ciggies during covid (since sales were banned for a couple of months in South Africa), there's at least a 3-5x cost that people will stomach for a puff, they'll complain but tey won't stop

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @brandonsbytes 19 Feb

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