What a freaking mess the Celsius situation. With my morning coffee I started to check my feednews and found the Chapter 11's protection the company requested. So, let's check some things. Some topics ago, someone joined Stacker because said that bitcoin twitter are full of hostile maxis. Having read his experience and avoiding his/her personal experience, I want to to put a different view on this thing called maximalism.
In order to fully understand this conversation, we need to agree things: first, there's no concept of maximalism, as a matter of fact, even Vitalik Buterin claimed that maximalism was a good thing, but no in a traditional, hostile way most people describe. Bitcoin maxis has two things:
  1. Low-time preferences: You buy bitcoin and if you hodl or make something similar to DCA, it means that you're thinking in the long run, therefore, the future of your family or closest ones. That's why other topic besides economy or cryptography such as health is included in the conversation, I mean, what's the point to rescue your money and not being able to enjoy it, right?
  2. A sixth sense for scammers: This is something @nerd2ninja talked recently in a very insightful thread here, where the point is -to me- very clear: maxis verify the project and there, they see people who act as gamblers and degens, not people try to build something. And we call it as the thing they are: scammers.
I read the e-mail and blog post made by the Celsius' team and is complete and absolute crap. When I checked a segment that goes as
Acting in the best interest of our stakeholders, including our entire customer community, is our top priority. We are also entering this process with the intention of emerging as a stronger company. (emphasis is mine)
Good Lord, I LOL very hard. So, let's check what maxis told people:
  • hold their bitcoin in a wallet which you AND ONLY YOU control,
  • necessity to make investment nor increase return because...unnecessary KYC
  • check the projects and their fundamentals. If the project has a unnecessary token or a centralized database with a blockchain shape, it's a scam.
  • most maxis warned about the degen behavior Celsius and other CeFis companies have.
Some maxis critics are corporate takeovers or VCs that put money in scam projects, others people who got offended because of the use of the sixth sense mentioned before. Needless to say also, maxis don't care what you do with your money and life, that' on you but, some points to be clear:
  • Don't ask maxis to be ok to give up in the energy use debate because others VCs want to promote a centralized DB eco-friendly
  • Don't ask maxis to be ok with the idea of remove decentralization in the name of price-go-up scheme
  • Don't ask maxis to be ok with the idea of remove features just because your shitcoin projects need the number of users increase.
See what we did? Maxis are not toxic, we're talking about integrity and mostly, common sense. I rest my case Your Honor and give up my time to comments
Mhm mhm indubitably
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You're always going to have those who fight you, who don't hold opinions, they only repeat common fallacies. The thing is bitcoiners are there to die for their beliefs, they are willing to take flack for it
They will get hit and hit and hit and if you can't prove them wrong, why should they listen?
Its a wonderful thing to see a stubborn minority emerge and call bullshit on everything and get rewarded for it
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Maxis dont just call out scam, they also call out shitcoin. Problem is they see everything else as shitcoin just because there are so many shitcoin.
I still failed to see why monero is a shitcoin for example
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Oh I know this one! Its because monero just used a discarded idea that was first brought to Bitcoin. It was called "Confidential transactions" and it was discarded after intellectual discussion (which you can take part in the bitcoin core review club: https://bitcoincore.reviews/) because they are bigger, bloated transactions and does not allow for the ability to audit on the base layer. This is important for ensuring protection from attacks like the value overflow incident in 2013 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident https://bitcoinuptime.org/
Also, monero has "tail emissions" which literally just means it has no supply cap. Bitcoin generally wants to solve this problem in a different way.
Also, monero does changes their code to prevent ASICs from mining monero, but this is a vulnerability because if a government made an ASIC, the monero team and community would not know about it and because of moneros inability to audit the base layer, the monero team and community would also not be able to detect the subsiquent double spends until enough people get robbed to be noticeable and believable and even then, that would not neccisarily indicate to them what the problem is that would need to be fixed.
But hey, at least monero actually tried to be money rather than a security.
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For all the flaws, (I think audit issue has been debulked?), Monero is the only coin I have recommended to some activists that are in high risk regime.
AFAIK tail emission trend towards ~0% inflation, the long term MS change would just be coin lost, just like BTC.
I still don't see it as a scam coin though, if anything I think strong default privacy make it the most secure coin ATM.
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Well wrote.
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