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When will humans start living on another planet/moon?

1066 sats \ 29 comments \ @kr 11 Mar earth

earth is a pretty great place, but it’s not a forever home for humanity.

how long will it take for the first human settlement to form on another planet or moon?

before 205028.9%

2050-209915.8%

2100-214913.2%

2150-21992.6%

2200 or later18.4%

never21.1%

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185 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 11 Mar

Wow, that's quite a distribution of answers.

I do think Earth is a forever home for humanity, but I also expect there will be a lunar research base at some point. We have permanent research colonies in Antarctica already and the space station has been continuously inhabited for a long time now.

46 sats \ 7 replies \ @kr OP 11 Mar

at some point won’t earth get swallowed up by the sun?

119 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 11 Mar

You might be more bullish on humanity than I am if you think that will be the binding constraint.

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 11 Mar

😅

46 sats \ 4 replies \ @gnilma 11 Mar

Hmmm... They estimate that to be about 7.59 billion years away. Billion with a B.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 11 Mar

It's quite an extrapolation of a 10,000 year old trend.

46 sats \ 2 replies \ @gnilma 12 Mar

Alright, I take that 7.59 figure back. It's from a quick search engine search while I distracted myself from work with SN. But upon further looking at more sources online, they all seem to point to billions of years before Earth becomes engulfed by the Sun. We could be fucked much sooner though, probably several hundred million years from now from increased luminosity of the Sun, causing a rise in solar radiation. But only fucked if humanity is still around and still haven't been able to leave the Solar system.

46 sats \ 1 reply \ @kristapsk 12 Mar

By then maybe we will be able to build giant dyson sphere around the Sun that will reduce sunlight coming to our planet.

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @gnilma 12 Mar

If we still exist by then, and we did not have to endure some sort of catastrophe we couldn't handle, I wouldn't be surprised if we will be consuming entire stars as our primary source of energy.

374 sats \ 1 reply \ @gnilma 11 Mar

I think to have a permanent base that is not yet self sustaining, and requires resupply is achievable by 2050. Well, provided that our civilization don't collapse and we don't destroy ourselves down here on Earth first. But we have bitcoin, and that gives me hope; and I'm also somewhat of an optimist, so before 2050.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 12 Mar

reasonable take, i agree with this

228 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk 11 Mar

What is your definition of "settlement"? Permanent bases with some scientists, like in Antarctica, is settlement? Or only when there is some self sustaining colony?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 11 Mar

yeah i’d say a settlement similar to antarctica would qualify

207 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 11 Mar

I believe there will be permanent bases on the Moon before 2050, there is rush to the Moon currently, multiple countries and companies competiting, 25 years is more than enough to do that.

70 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatsCats 12 Mar

The space station has been continuously occupied since November 2000, so I imagine we'll have something similar on a lunar base.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 12 Mar

good point

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @DiedOnTitan 12 Mar

We might visit the moon, or even Die on Titan, but humans are earthlings. We evolved to live here and only here. We breathe air, we need fresh water and food. We would need to create nearly the exact conditions as Earth on another planet to merely survive. Do you see the problem here? This planet can be our paradise for many millions of more years. We need to become better stewards.

Now computers can work perfectly well in the vacuum of space and in atmospheres that are toxic to mammals. A.I. will be much better suited for space travel.

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @DudeJLebowski 12 Mar

If only Russia had landed on the moon first in 1969, we would have gone on to have a lunar research base, and ultimately a base also on Mars. Then Dev Ayesa would have stolen an asteroid and stuff.

69 sats \ 1 reply \ @OneOneSeven 11 Mar

“The Universe is either traversable or it isn't. And if it is, it's not surprising that anyone's here. And if it isn't, we die here in short order.”

The real question is whether there’s theory beyond Einstein that allows us to visit different worlds. Chemical rockets won’t do.

Einstein locked us in the General Relativity prison.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 12 Mar

Fastest engine for space travel with our current tech is nuclear pulse propulsion, just denonate atomic bombs behind the ship, which is actually 1960s tech. IIRC some studies suggested we could even achieve speeds above 10% of speed of light this way.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Mar

I personally don't believe in space travel.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @oraltosun 12 Mar

This happens whenever the technology of creating atmospheres is developed. There is no life in a bubble doms or with an oxygen tube.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @030e0dca83 12 Mar

One day it'll happen ThE question is why do we need extra waste land if on the earth we still have so much land to live?

Ouch, yes future heat death. In this case in the next couple hundreds years human will start to migrate to another planets

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 12 Mar

I suppose no place is better than earth to live. In fact we can set up some research stations or say we have a few people there. But to live like we live on the earth isn't forseeable in near future

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 12 Mar

A sustainable settlement or just a research base?

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr OP 12 Mar

doesn’t necessarily need to be sustainable, just a full-time base of some sort

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 12 Mar

That probably comes in the next couple decades but a sustainable settlement probably not anytime soon.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Atreus 12 Mar

It's cool to think about, but IMHO these retards need to figure things out here first before clowning around elsewhere. And obviously I include myself in that statement.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr OP 12 Mar

maybe one way to fix the world is to show by example a new model of society on another planet that works better