Should Europe and USA continue to assist Ukraine? \ stacker news ~econ

Should Europe and USA continue to assist Ukraine?

1360 sats \ 24 comments \ @Bell_curve 22 Mar econ

absolutely yes 34.6%

NO NO NO 38.5%

I don't care either way 3.8%

I support a ceasefire 23.1%

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331 sats \ 7 replies \ @SwearyDoctor 22 Mar

the EU/US aren't "assisting" Ukraine. They're using it as a hammer to try to weaken a geopolicial rival, without success, all the while sending millions of their supposed "allies" to their deaths without reason or anything to show for it.

Meanwhile, blackrock and other Western multinational corporations are buying what can still be bought in Ukraine - mostly, arable land, much of it literally, as in, the fertile black soil is shipped out, and getting ready for billions of contracts for "rebuilding" (i.e., pocketing the money).

At the same time, old, obsolete military equipment that would have to be carefully dismantled in Western countries, because of environmental legislation, can now be shipped there to be burnt. Not only is this free - this also runs up bills to be paid by other entities later (the EU pays member states for this. In a situation where there is no "one state", but competing arms, these parts can now profit from their old junk).

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 22 Mar

This

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Fabs 22 Mar freebie

Sums it up quite well; it's business for me some, trauma and death for many.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 22 Mar

Cash cow for military industrial complex, death for Ukraine.

Ukraine has a manpower shortage. Many have left the country.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve OP 22 Mar

https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/ukraines-only-hope-diplomacy-neutrality/comment/51128428?r=2jojiv&utm_medium=ios

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve OP 17 Jun

The article "Ukraine's Only Hope: Diplomacy + Neutrality" by John Mearsheimer discusses the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Mearsheimer argues that the best strategy for Ukraine and the West is to pursue diplomacy and neutrality, as military victory is unlikely and could lead to further escalation. He emphasizes that Ukraine's only hope lies in a negotiated settlement that addresses its security concerns while also considering Russia's interests. The article highlights the need for a neutral Ukraine, which would renounce its NATO aspirations and not host NATO forces on its territory, in exchange for multilateral security guarantees and the possibility of EU membership[1][2][3].

Sources [1] Ukraine's Only Hope: Diplomacy + Neutrality https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/ukraines-only-hope-diplomacy-neutrality?r=2jojiv&triedRedirect=true [2] The Talks That Could Have Ended the War in Ukraine - Foreign Affairs https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/talks-could-have-ended-war-ukraine [3] The Diplomatic Path to a Secure Ukraine https://quincyinst.org/research/the-diplomatic-path-to-a-secure-ukraine/ [4] What should Ukraine do next? - by Lawrence Freedman https://samf.substack.com/p/what-should-ukraine-do-next [5] Escalation, Red Lines, Risk and the Russo-Ukraine War https://samf.substack.com/p/escalation-red-lines-risk-and-the [6] Ukraine's Only Hope: Diplomacy + Neutrality - John's Substack https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/ukraines-only-hope-diplomacy-neutrality

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve OP 22 Mar

I agree with you.

I used “assist” to be concise and lazy

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwearyDoctor 22 Mar

oh yeah, i got that from the option "NO NO NO"...

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 23 Mar

'Don't care either way', not because I like wars but I think both Russia and Ukraine are equally responsible for it. Everyone says that Putin is the culprit but that's just seeing the one side of the coin.