300 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 26 Mar \ on: Tough Questions for Libertarians 7/15 libertarian
A relevant idea comes out of the dissonance literature. In a nutshell:
When people feel extremely secure in their beliefs, they care little about what other people say about the issues. If some nutcase was running around on the street talking about how gravity is an illusion, you might smile, and maybe make fun of the person, but you wouldn't feel threatened by the guy's ideology. It is so obviously nonsensical, and the refutation of it is so evident, and your position as a gravity-believer so dominant, that you can be disinterested and above the fray.
When any of these parameters change, people's feelings about contrary ideas change, too. If the guy was talking about something that was not trivially falsifiable, or if the ideology he was proposing could threaten your own interests somehow, were it to be accepted by others, then your feelings on the matter would change. Or (perhaps most relevant to your particular point) if there was a chance that other people might mistake this guy (who is an idiot) as a member of your tribe (which is filled with people of keen and discerning intelligence, such as yourself) then his rantings become a threat, and the job to do is to distance your tribe from his dumb beliefs, and also ridicule his dumb beliefs.
It's informative to consider which exact conspiracy theories draw ridicule from which exact groups. That would probably reveal a great deal about the forces bubbling underneath the surface.
Good points. I do often wonder about the why when "the establishment" suddenly targets one of these fringe groups.
I think to those of us who are further out here on the fringe, it's odd that some of our brethren are constantly trying to ingratiate themselves with establishment statists, since supposedly we're united in thinking that's a dangerous crackpot ideology.
In practice, all that's really going on most of the time is that those libertarians live in DC or NYC or LA and their friend group is made up of mainstream Democrats who they don't want to alienate. Since they do agree that whatever "conspiracy theory" is dumb, why not bond over that?
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