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218 sats \ 25 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Mar \ parent \ on: Top SN Territories - 17 weeks later charts_and_numbers
~mostly_harmless is a great territory. I feel like it took off a little bit when ~culture got archived, so maybe you two are in a bit of a rivalry.
Uh oh.
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Before the archiving, I thought of ~mostly_harmless as the more discussion oriented of the two and ~culture as the more news and current events, but I'm not sure exactly what davidw's going for yet.
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It's been super fun to nudge it along, but mostly discovering what it wants to be. I mean, it will always be where I can post my hodgepodge of thoughts, since I bloody paid for the right for it to be that, but it has taken on a flavor I hadn't anticipated. It's like raising a child, a little -- you only have so much control.
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I don't know whether you had any intention of this, but I do ask myself whether it's something you might be interested in before I post it there. Maybe whatever form it's taking is a sort of fun-house reflection of our impression of you.
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Honestly it never occurred to me, in the beginning, that anyone else would post there at all -- I didn't even bother to give a description of the territory that made sense without context.
But then it turned out that people posted things that sort of matched the vibe of stuff I generally care about, and that was the joy in it -- I had hoped that I could find people who would want to talk to me about stuff I think is interesting, by me bringing shiny bits of foil back to the nest that a handful of interested people might react to, and it has turned out way better than that, with people bringing their own bits of foil, for everyone to react to. Now I'm learning what the vibe is as much as laying it down.
It seems impossible that it can keep working like this, but I'm enjoying it while it does.
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Maybe whatever form it's taking is a sort of fun-house reflection of our impression of you.
Haha this + posting there feels like paying 420 sats for a part of @elvismercury's precious attention and hoping for one of his thoughtful replies. 👀
I also feel like @k00b's How To Fail reminded everyone about ~mostly_harmless. At least it reminded me and then I thought: Why not post my Z2Z posts there since they belong less and less in ~meta?
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I'm glad to not be the only who felt that way.
I had been wondering if personal territories could be something that would work well for bigger names who might potentially join Stacker News, but I didn't quite get why other people would post in someone else's personal territory.
Similarly, when territories rolled out, I thought about founding ~undisciplined, for basically the same reason ~mostly_harmless was founded, but had that same hangup.
~mostly_harmless is showing us a proof of concept that its creator wasn't even thinking about.
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I had been wondering if personal territories could be something that would work well for bigger names who might potentially join Stacker News, but I didn't quite get why other people would post in someone else's personal territory.
This is a really interesting idea -- I've seen those services where you pay some amount of money to have someone read email you send to them, as a kind of anti-spam thing. I think we talked about this on SN; in fact, maybe you were the one to bring it up (sorry if so, so many threads to stitch together at this point.)
Anyway, I suppose right now territories are, at least implicitly, a form of this? A traditional influencer who already has distribution probably would come out worse from using SN as a vector for paid attention-getting, but for a normal person, and especially someone prominent in the btc space, it could be a nice solution.
What features could SN add to really rock this use case? Anything come to mind?
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I'm in two minds about private messaging, but I know there's something in there to be explored.
This may be a bit crazy, but I'm keen to explore the idea of stacker bullets. If you were a territory owner, perhaps people posting could have a chance to pay to have you quote certain passages from articles in the week and have them land in a highlights post in other people's inbox/feed. They could just do it with a conventional ad like current, but I feel like doing this for specific paragraphs would make it much more scalable - and they could potentially be delivered by the territory owner themselves for added reach. Of course the territory owner could accept/decline that request. Or not run them at all - if that is a giant fiat-like flop.
In terms of monetary incentives, people are used to charging for their PoW still. SN incentives are definitely there but they are somewhat slower and not currently comparable to those with followings on substack or other platforms. Perhaps that will change. Being able to charge for private content (for territory owners exclusively) will likely see a proliferation of people wishing to purchase their own in order to monetise their content/products - and I think will make it far more financially viable going forward.
It accomplishes something approximately like superchats, too. I wonder how active a personality would have to be on SN to make that work. If you were more or less certain to get a thoughtful response, there are certainly people who could charge a hefty posting fee.
It probably was me, btw. I had a similar idea for a nostr client to adopt.
I have no idea either, but there’s more than enough turf to differentiate the 2. And to build back-up the momentum so that they feed each other.
I do know I don’t just want ~culture to become a clown-world cluster. More than enough of that ‘content’ on twittex.
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Btw, great job coming in off the top rope with this post right before the end of MSM. It's safe to say you secured one of those top 5 slots with this POW.
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If I had chickens to count, I still wouldn’t be doing it just yet.
Appreciate it though. Been a crazy busy month. Even without considering the sat-race.
Started-out great in first 10 days with MSM, but neglected 50% of the equation until recently with upvotes of early posts & comments. So would be pretty happy with holding position.
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