Let me be Mister Meaner here :

Orange-pilling is working very well, but it depends on what tools you use to do it. I agree with the general sentiment that it has to be useful to people. But it is. So many people now understand what we're up against (the parasites having tried to force the death jabs on people really helped). Everyone I talk to already knows they can't trust the Gov't anymore. It's an easy sell.

The problem is using the right tools.

I've run a lightning node. Tried opening channels. Finally found a few that allowed channels small enough for what I'm willing to put in a hot wallet (and that weren't NSA in Virginia). But I guess they weren't well connected. Roughly 50% of payments would fail with something like "can't find route/path".

I tried to send from coinos to Breeze, failed. Tried to send from Breeze to another one, failed. Tried to send to a Blockstream Green Lightning wallet (experimental), failed. Tried mutiny wallet, failed; and had a bunch of sats that were sort of stuck to potentially pay for a channel closure. I've had enough. I'm the tech support for my friends. I won't be doing that.

I want one app that helps me onboard people in a way that is simple and just works. Sorry for all the haters out there, but for me that's Green (Blockstream) with mainnet bitcoin, liquid bitcoin and Jade support. Plus Adam Back is the CEO and he's the PGP t-shirt guy. I feel good about that. Choose your poison.

I can onboard someone on liquid bitcoin without worrying about channels, liquidity, etc. I can send them sats from the start for cheap. And more importantly, without worrying about a payment failing.

I tell them from the get-go : this is not for your pension fund. As soon as you have a thousand or more, got back to mainnet. Mempool.space will tell you when fees are low. Then use sideswap.io to go back to mainnet.

Need to pay a lightning invoice? Use boltz.exchange

Need to pay a website that only accepts shitcoins? Use sideshift.ai

You have more than a few thousand on first-layer bitcoin? Put in in Jade.

They can do it all from one app.

If I use lightning, it'll be with an e-cash mint. I understand the trade-offs. I'm willing to take the risk to be rug-pulled. I'm willing to take the risk for small amounts, in exchange for better privacy. Plus, those wallets actually work. When I pay a lightning invoice, it actually goes through. (Boltz.exchange also goes through)

I'm not paying a percentage to Phoenix and then have all my transactions go through them. That's not privacy.

So, for all the haters out there: yes, I use e-cash mints and I use liquid. I understand the trade-offs and I'm happy with them. And my orange-pilling has been going great for years.

I live on bitcoin. It's not theory. I use it daily.

Just my two sats! P.S. Shoutout to Darthcoin and Justin_Shocknet!!