30 sats \ 42 replies \ @030e0dca83 29 May \ on: Old or New cars? alter_native
My friend had 70th Soviet car. Your car isn't old compare to it
1992 Japanese car even vs 1992 Russian car will be completely different league, 1992 Russian car will be Western 1970s car tech with some upgrades.
P.S. I learned to drive as a kid on Lada 1600 (VAZ 2106).
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Xactly. Design and tech have been stolen. However most of people in post Soviet countries started driver career on VAZ and later got theirs Renault, Audi, Nissan, etc
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Not always stolen, original Lada was officially licensed Fiat 124. But it's funny that basically 1967 European car of the year with some upgrades was one of the coolest things average person could drive at the end of the 1980s.
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Wow, it's a fun fact for me. I thought it was impossible during cold war
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Fiat licensed it's tech for both USSR (Lada) and Poland (Polski Fiat). It was part of the business model for Fiat back then.
But that's not the only example. Pepsi and Coke were also produced in Soviet Union by licence, for example.
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I heard that Soviet Union produced "Baikal" as analog of Pepsi
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Both Pepsi and Coke at one moment were produced in "Veldze" factory in Riga, not far from where I lived back then. AFAIK, only factory ever that has simultaneously bottled both Pepsi and Coke at the same time. And they actually continued to produce Pepsi till some mid-1990s.
With Pepsi there was a deal - USSR gets Pepsi, Pepsi get rights to Stolichnaya vodka in the West.
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interesting!
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As they say, "Good artist copy, Great artist steal."
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There is nothing wrong with starting your driving career with an old car.
I remember taking my drivers test in my car, the instructor was surprised I was testing in a manual transmission car!
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I remember taking my drivers test in my car, the instructor was surprised I was testing in a manual transmission car!
In Latvia you can't do exam in your car, need to use provided ones. But mostly people do that with manual, otherwise your driver's licence will not allow to legally drive manual transmission cars.
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In the USA, many people use an automatic for the drivers test so it is easier to pass.
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Yes, because some 90% of cars in USA have automatic transmission. It's different in Europe, people mostly prefer manual transmission, especially for older cars.
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Older cars have manual transmissions.
Newer cars have auto transmissions for the most part.
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For most new car models you still have manual transmission option here when you buy new one. And a lot of people prefer that. I also like manual, somehow I feel more in control.
Main reason is price. These cars are around $250. If you add couple hundreds it'll be in "great"condition
People are poor that's why these cars are still on the roads
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Actually, the price isnt what bothers me.
The fact that I drive my old car, and am able to keep it on the road gives me a sense of pride.
Other people talk about taking their vehicle to the shop lol
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These cars are around $250.
Ehh... In Latvia no car that has passed vehicle inspection and still has at least month left to legally drive will cost below 500 EUR.
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Vehicle inspection has been abolished, and cars shouldn't be in perfect condition. If affects prices
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Where were they abolished?
Im not a fan of them, but its important to have a safe car on the highway.
Or you could cause accidents to others.
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Over here
On the other hand these car's drivers are afraid to travel on cars like these and use it only for local roads with speed limitations
It depends on the state in the USA.
Some places have vehicle inspections and others dont.
Usually when you get your tabs they check the basics.
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My car is very reliable.
It is starting to rust, though.
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Every old car will start to rust, especially if there are winters and salt is used against snow and ice on roads. Requires maintenance. If you don't do anything against rust, in a few years only option will be to sell it for scrap metal.
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That is true, but you cant prevent rust on an old Japanese car.
They just werent painted as well as other cars of that era.
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There are some chemicals you can use to slow down rusting, in the parts of the car that aren't painted. And from time to time you just change some body parts (ok, not you literally likely, unless you are welder by the profession).
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That is true.
I think I will start getting some carbon fiber panels made.
It is lighter, and wont rust.
Or I could have aluminium panels made....the car has saved me a bucket load of money by now. lol
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70s Soviet cars are tanks as long as they start!
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Today it's a reason to spend weekend in garage to fix your LADA
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Haha
I have another car in the garage to tinker on.
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More than one car in a family. This is mind-blowing
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Really?
Its quite common here.
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Zero car per family is quite common in my country
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Your country must have better public transportation.
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Railway, Underground, Buses, Trams, etc. all of these you can use
If gasoline and fuel will go higher people will start use bicycles