https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/everything-is-coming-to-bitcoin https://fountain.fm/episode/x0rGMJ4aHn9UwsoPKFCG

TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Tokens as equity? 00:12:02 Spiderchain EVM explainer 00:19:16 Lightning vs sidechains; rugpull threat 00:28:21 Build “on” bitcoin 00:38:11 Hacks & risks vs innovation 00:49:33 Bitcoin culture clash; winner take all 01:04:48 Spiderchain: PoS. launch, use cases