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Definitely private companies, because they can't force you to use the currency they're manipulating or to back up their losses when they fail.

Someone has never heard of company scrip.

If they're using force, then they are no longer a private company. They would be a criminal organization, like the state.

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lol at the naïveté

Companies use force and power projection all the damn time.

https://prospect.org/features/coca-cola-killings/

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It's not naivete. We're just using the words slightly differently and it's tricking you into thinking you have a point.

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A business doesn't just stop being a business when they use force.

Have you ever heard of a for-profit prison? Have you ever had to fund someone's commissary? Maybe if you had, you'd know how badly a company will treat a captive audience.

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You're missing my point entirely. Also, bad treatment and criminal aggression are not the same thing.

I'm making a distinction between private actors and criminal actors (and, yes, I'm aware it's not a clean distinction). Private actors respect the property rights of others. Criminal actors violate the property rights of others.

There are many criminal organizations that are not generally regarded as such, or are not known to be such. That doesn't change anything about the point.

Private prisons are a euphemism. They are still part of the state and as such they are criminal organizations.

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Private prisons are a euphemism. They are still part of the state and as such they are criminal organizations.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/11-best-prison-law-enforcement-125342444.html

Sir you are 0 for 3. Do some research.

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That has nothing to do with what I said.

Private prisons enforce state sentences, with state authorization, using state funds. They are part of the state in all but name.

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You give private companies too much credit.

If companies like GEO Group, Core Civic, and LaSalle Corrections are using slave labour with the governments permission, how do you think they'd manipulate the money supply if they were unfettered?