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308 sats \ 23 comments \ @Undisciplined 24 Jun bitcoin

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In this video, I discuss the coming distribution of BTC from Mt Gox's bankruptcy trustee, and what it could mean for Bitcoin's price action in the coming weeks.

Creditors have had many years to sell their claims, and hedge funds who bought those claims have been able to easily hedge their positions, so this market response is probably an overreaction and a good buying opportunity.

Long-term hodlers should ignore news and flows like this, and focus instead on using lower fiat prices to accumulate more BTC if possible.

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129 sats \ 4 replies \ @riberet19 24 Jun

A lot of people who get their BTC back, even if it's not 100%, will want to make their profit in terms of fiat and they will sell, many others won't, I think Bitcoin could fall due to the selling pressure and also the hype that the news will generate, but then the market will absorb those Bitcoins and we will go back to normal, or at the later price, that's what I think.

58 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 24 Jun

We’re heading to 50k territory because I just bought a small bag at 60k. Book it.

120 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 24 Jun

Are you so unlucky? Haha

53 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

Even those who don't sell directly will likely want to spend their Bitcoin on goods and services. Some of the recipients of that spending will exchange for fiat, so even indirectly there will be lots of downward pressure on the exchange rate.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @riberet19 24 Jun

Let's take advantage of that then ;)

96 sats \ 7 replies \ @grayruby 24 Jun freebie

Short term it will definitely put supply pressure on the market. Let's face it, many of these people are forced hodlers for a decade and are up immensely in their positions and will want to realize some of that profit even as prices drop significantly from ATHs. I don't think it will be as bad as some predict but I don't think it will be nothing. Also, we have to factor in the cascade it might create as recent etf buyers who are up 30% right now may decide it is also a good time to take some profits.

Long term I think it is great for Bitcoin to get this FUD cleared up.

I said at the beginning of the bull run that if we can have a bull market that clears GBTC, MT Gox and DOJ supply overhang and that prevents a parabolic run up, I am good with that trade.

72 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

I'll be interested to see how low it takes us.

When people were talking about ETF's putting a floor under the bitcoin price, I was urging caution because investors might suddenly get spooked by something stupid and dump their holdings. This definitely qualifies in my book as just that kind of stupid reason to dump.

91 sats \ 5 replies \ @grayruby 24 Jun

There is also the issue that funds that own the Bitcoin etf (around 20% of the etf market) will also want to allocate to the eth etf. I suspect that won't be new capital but some rotated out of the bitcoin products and into the eth products. (maybe 20% of their holdings). Crypto is just a bucket for them.

I expect a rocky summer and once all this is cleared up and we get a fed pivot in Sept or a signal of a pivot sometime in Q4 the second leg of the bull market will commence.

How low will we go in the interim? Who knows? 50k maybe. There has already been a big reduction in leverage from the ATH and you have already had a big repositioning amongst traders with the eth etf launch (but more of that could occur if eth performs well while Bitcoin drops) so I don't think we see the type of liquidation cascades we saw during the covid sell off and china mining ban but I expect we grind down over the next 4-6 weeks and then consolidate for awhile before moving up again come sept/oct.

Could be wrong. Maybe etf holders are more diamond handed than I expect, funds aren't selling to allocate to eth and only a small portion of Gox coins get sold and the market realizes it got it wrong and we jump back to ATHs by end of July but that seems unlikely.

51 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

Crypto is just a bucket for them.

good point

63 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 24 Jun

Even if they only allocate 20% to eth which seems about right because eth products usually do about 1/5th the AUM as bitcoin products. That is still another half a billion in outflows.

71 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

You should also factor in the possibility of the Biden regime getting really draconian towards bitcoiners. Lots of bitcoin donations are flowing into the Trump campaign and I think that makes us more of a target.

90 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 24 Jun freebie

Maybe but I think they have lightened their stance on "crypto" because they know it is a losing issue. No one is a single issue anti-crypto voter but there are a lot of single issue crypto voters. I don't think it is as large a pool as the coinbases of the world like to purport but they obviously got spooked or the eth etf wouldn't never have gotten approved. Odds were at 15% and then suddenly Trump is coming out saying I will protect your bitcoin and crypto and a couple days later the etf is approved.

61 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

Maybe so, but they started backing off before Trump started drawing lots of political donations in bitcoin.

I wouldn't underestimate how vindictive they can be. We would not be a difficult group to demonize, if they set their minds to it.

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63 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatsMate 25 Jun

Yea this money was held up forever. I think many will still hold as they are only getting a small proportion of what the bitcoin would have been worth. $450 can get you a nice dinner in a decent steakhouse here in Scottsdale.

Germany was the big whale that I think shook the markets.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 25 Jun

I haven't closely followed the settlement. How big of a haircut are people getting?

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @JesseJames 24 Jun

It ain't coming, it's here... :-)

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

Could be, but there are other possibilities for the recent price movement.

32 sats \ 2 replies \ @Coinsreporter 24 Jun

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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 24 Jun

Haha! Accidentally wrote a cricket update over there...

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitties 24 Jun

Wanted to post one about this today. Not sure if I’m allowed to talk about ETFs or anything other than BTC.

Genuinely done with this shit echo chamber.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 24 Jun

Talk about whatever you want.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 24 Jun

100% true. But, I wasn't expecting this from market at all. This is merely an exaggeration.