I agree with this view as expressed by Rogan and Dore on the JRE podcast. https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1809254885357134165?s=46

If you guys haven’t seen the devastation in Maui this video from Peter Santanello taken in Lahaina is good. https://youtu.be/nm1cfHqnMt4?si=IkBWYWessYnpWhhe