I know what you mean. There are few people who argue well (as in seeking truth rather than victory).
Its absurd to argue towards victory since it is often subjective. You can have an argument with someone and both believe you won.
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In a good faith argument, I'm usually trying to resolve the disagreement. That means identifying the underlying source of the disagreement.
Sometimes that's an objective empirical fact or point of logic and sometimes it's a subjective preference or value. When it's the former, one of us changes their mind. When it's the later, we understand each other a little better.
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