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In the first half of 2024, the United States edged out China to become Germany's leading trading partner, reflecting Berlin's strategic pivot to lessen reliance on Beijing amid robust U.S. economic performance and Germany's move away from cheap Russian gas.
From January to June, Germany's trade with the U.S. reached approximately €127 billion ($139 billion), surpassing the €122 billion traded with China, based on preliminary data from the German statistics office.
This shift follows a consistent trend, as 2023 marked the eighth consecutive year with China as Germany's top trading partner. The change highlights Germany's intent to reduce its economic exposure to China due to political frictions and accusations of unfair trade practices (this is something that the EU-Europeans would never do). Additionally, Germany's detachment from Russian gas (perhaps one or the other still remembers this incident with Nord Stream 2, in which the Russians allegedly blew up their own infrastructure...) has accelerated this trend, contributing to its geopolitical isolation from both Russia and China.
Lola Machleid, a foreign trade expert at the German Chamber of Industry and Commerce (DIHK), noted the strength of the U.S. economy bolstered German exports, which grew by 3.3% to nearly €81 billion in the first half of 2024. Conversely, exports to China fell by nearly 3% to just over €48 billion.
Imports from China dropped by almost 8% to €73.5 billion, while imports from the U.S. decreased by 3.4% to €46.1 billion, driven partly by energy commodities.
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Who do you think is better for Germany to trade with? China or USA?
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As a libertarian with hope for the future I clearly prefer the US
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We wouldn't want to trade with someone whose products are getting cheaper and better, now would we?
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25 sats \ 1 reply \ @iguano 8 Aug
are China products better than US products?
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God no. I just meant that their products are improving while also getting cheaper.
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Russia and China want war to maximize their profits. I can see China doing something soon.
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War is not profitable. It is extremely costly. Countries that can't export their inflation (or receive endless US subsidies) aren't in endless wars for precisely that reason.
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War drives commerce. Well, if you are a big enough country.
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That is the opposite of true. War causes massive commercial disruptions, both intentionally and unintentionally.
It's very profitable for half-a-dozen US weapons manufacturers and they pay our "representatives" to impoverish the rest of us through this endless war spending.
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Did You see the Lockheed chart on monday? Nice insider gaming. It's all just disgusting. Demonetizing the state is a humanitarian duty
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I didn't. Honestly, I don't follow this stuff as closely as I might, because I find it truly distressing.
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48 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK OP 8 Aug
Understandable
Yes, I know. Its bad, and getting worse.
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Is that how it works? I never notices, I was always on the impoverished end.
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Embargos, sanctions, and the destruction of commercial infrastructure are all standard parts of war.
Not to mention that war requires diverting resources that might have been productive and using them to destroy other productive resources and people.
This is the biggest and most ridiculous Keynesian lie.
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Right. But the winning country gets to divide the other country up! Profits all around!
That's what US and anted. Apart from Germany's suicidal policies, US is to be blamed for their current financial situation.
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Germany and the whole EU are facing a solid crisis. There's practically no economic growth compared to the USA. It's the fourth turning moment for both of them IMHO.
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Clearly, yes. But Europe seems to run some years ahead
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47 sats \ 3 replies \ @flat24 8 Aug
It is better for Germany to trade with Russia and China, but it is openly known that once Germany was defeated in the war, just like Japan, they became direct lackeys of the American axis (the world's bank, the world's policeman, judge and executioner of the world) and it is the Americans who dictate what these two nations should or should not do. It is because of American orders that Germany put the noose around its own neck by giving up Russian gas and oil to depend strictly on what the USA provides.
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And now do UK, please
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47 sats \ 1 reply \ @flat24 9 Aug
The UK has serious problems with Islamic lawlessness that is increasing every day, generating panic and terror. And there are news circulating that people are being jailed for talking about racism on social media, and complaining about migration and things like that. ,🤯
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That's the work of our globalist friends of Davos. Look what happens to those that refuse the destruction of their tradition and culture (Orban, Fico, Trump, Putin etc)
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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 8 Aug
Gotta get em that sweet sweet LNG baby!
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This is good, getting rich of chinas dominance on exports, maybe they will make quality things instead. Do you still remember those cheap gold made in china stickers?
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China is in big trouble
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Chinas economy is already rocky.
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Is it possible to know what kind of products have contributed to this increase in trade between Germany and the USA?
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165 sats \ 2 replies \ @TomK OP 8 Aug
after uk-usa blew up the pipeline of course LNG
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Liquid gas? Is that what you mean?
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Yep. the whole Ukraine conflict is based on a commodity war. lNG that's part of it. the British motto has always been: keep the Germans down and the Russians out! that's the policy for the European continent
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LNG coming from the US instead of Russia, Intel investments in Germany, german carmakers sales in China plummeting, US "friendshoring" some machine manufacturing
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