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By Vincent Cook
By appealing to tariffs and other forms of economic regulation, Republicans have tossed aside any commitment to free market economics.
They are actually same. Republicans will promise to build and Dems will promise to build but in reality they will only build for themselves and destroy for everyone else.
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Woods' Law:
No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain.
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Yes, đź’Ż
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"marks the entrenchment of an organized “national conservative” movement within the party that espouses an anti-free-market ideology, overtly scorning individual liberty in favor of a powerful nation-state.
This right here is very dangerous. Having our freedoms encroached upon.
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I agree. I've found a lot of the rhetoric from the right, as they sense power coming their way, rather disconcerting.
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Neither party is laissez faire or classical liberal
Which rhetoric do you find disconcerting?
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Growing support for ramping up domestic policing and surveillance, mostly. It's in the name of dealing with illegal immigration and women crossing state lines for abortions, but that's not relevant. Giving the state increased powers always backfires.
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I see
The FBI and intelligence agencies are not political neutral. They definitely favor Democrats now.
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That's true, but when Republicans actually have power they seem to forget that and increase the powers held by those agencies.
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Certainly under W Bush
Under Trump many agencies were trying to undermine or sabotage him
Like his cabinet
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That's why I said "actually have power". I don't think Trump ever did, but I think they're sensing that it will be different this time.
I feel each new president always tries to increase their power in the agency by appointing key people. But each time it seems to backfire. Either with incompetency or corruption.
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I feel the right is trying to push as much as they can while they have the momentum.
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I wish they'd push peace and freedom, rather than their true authoritarian desires.
There's a saying that Republicans campaign as Ron Paul and then govern as John McCain.
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If you have Ron Paul in office, you are already winning.
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It seems that both paths for the United States condemn it.
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Kamala is literally a communist. She had to most radical left voting record as a Senator, like Bernie Sanders.
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Clearly I prefer the right-wing path for the US, but it doesn't look like it's going to be a big gamble either.
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I don't think she's ideological at all. She's just a psychopath seeking power and in California the easiest path is on the left.
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How do you explain her national campaign in 2019 or her current campaign?
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She's scrubbed any mention of actual policies from her campaign materials and her campaign is leaking to the media that she doesn't support any of that stuff anymore. I'd say that speaks to my hypothesis.
In 2019, she was probably trying to ride the socialist momentum from Bernie's 2016 campaign. I don't think she failed because of policies. People just don't like her.
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You don’t actually believe her?
Every leftist politician pretends to be a moderate than governs left.
Does she support fracking in Pennsylvania?
Is she going to restart keystone XL?
Her campaign is trying to deceive gullible voters
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I'm not saying she won't govern left. I'm saying she doesn't have any ideological commitment to it.
She'll do whatever increases her power and in general socialist policies grant more power to politicians.
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The people who selected her are hard left.
By selecting Walz instead of Shapiro she also demonstrated she is controlled by the hard left.
Yeah, we're pretty boned, in the short term.
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I think that these 4 years of mandate are going to be hard whoever governs, the US needs better candidates with better ideas.
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We don’t have to speculate. Harris will continue Biden agenda. Any change will be more radically left.
Trump will continue what he did during his first term.
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Trump will continue what he did during his first term.
Getting perpetually rugged by his own appointees?
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Possibly
I mean his economic and fiscal policies
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Fair enough. We will likely get better energy policy, immediately.
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Kamala is literally a Marxist: equity or equality of outcome
Her only excuse is she doesn't know what she is saying
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Whether blue or red - both options will leave us in a situation where we are increasing our fiscal deficits and we are further becoming enslaved.
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The very important thing to read from this attitude from the republican party is that if they take this postures, undiscernible from the democrat party, it's solely because the Overton Window commands them to, and thus, it's because people themselves have lost all sense on governance and economy, and focus solely on "manners" and "morals", the reason the debate has degraded from "republicanism vs socialists" to "conservatives and liberals" (both equally socialists).
The exact same thing happened here, and Milei was the first one to bring that up and make it evident, calling our republican faction "leftists with manners".
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This is them showing their true statist colors and lust for power. Americans may value freedom to do what they want, but they also have a serious problem with wanting to dictate what everyone else can do.
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The current position of the Overton Window may for sure be coincident with what bureaucrats want the state to be, but should it shift you will see politicians, the car sellers, immediately shift their speeches too, for it will be politically profitable. Bureaucrats will still not support it, but politicians can rely on the power of public support and will sell to people what people demands. We were able to see that in real time happening here: as Milei shifted the Overton Window by miles, it was so much that even the socialists had to start endorsing free markets in their speeches. Even if it was solely by word, it does shows how much public opinion weighs on what politicians and bureaucrats can or can not do.
What you say about yankee americans applies equally anywhere, anytime. It's not less of a truth here. It's so easy to lose perception of implications when you accept actions that seem to occur far away. That effect is one of many items listed in the "The Inevitability of Socialism" text I'm working on, and making that more evident is part of the parallel work I'm working on.
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When Republicans are out of power, they sound like Milei. It's when they sense they may actually get to wield it that their tone changes.
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That's due to a common syndrome in politics, so much it haves a name: the infamous Baglini's Theorem
Politicians' convictions are inversely proportional to their proximity to power.
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Supporters of Republican economic policies often emphasize the benefits of economic growth, arguing that a robust economy ultimately benefits everyone. Critics, however, may focus on issues of economic inequality and the distribution of wealth, questioning whether growth is equally shared
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Growth has never been equally shared in US or world history
Not even in USSR was growth equally shared
Sharing is the opposite of caring: look at any socialist country such as Venezuela
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