22 sats \ 4 replies \ @xz 14 Aug \ parent \ on: On Toxic People mostly_harmless
How is this article related to toxic people.
If there is a relationship, I might read it?
If you read my comment you will see that I am giving the article and related issue as an example of an issue that the Bitcoin community in my experience is very reluctant to engage upon in an open minded fair and fact based contest of ideas. I was making this point in turn in retort to the OPs assertion that in 'the Bitcoin community is that there is a deep respect for real argument, particularly from first principles.'
While I would agree Bitcoiners are probably overall more open minded and prepared to question established power structures and norms I would not agree this is universal and especially where any issue that is difficult and challenging to Bitcoin is raised...such as the example I gave.
Summary- even among Bitcoiners toxicity can emerge when challenging ideas are raised.
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I see what the connection is. I did read you comment, it just didn't seem clear that there was a link. After re-reading, I get it.
I get it. But I don't know if I necessarily agree that people would ignore this side of a debate or argument. I read tonnes of stuff on here that cites this exact idea or projection for the future. Many posts on economics and politics that highlight China's strength in many areas, and the EU or US lack of prowess in them.
Sorry, I didn't read any of your previous comments relating to it. FWIW, I wouldn't dismiss the point you are making about the shift in dominance of East-West.
As far as the point relating to Bitcoiners unable to engage in debate. Sure that is a fact that many of us still have out biases. We have different experiences, knowledge sets etc.
Fair enough. Sorry I skipped over the point you were making.
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I come as a refugee from reddit where there was a much less open and informed r/bitcoin community that seems to exist here- there I would rarely if ever see the east west issue raised (unless it was myself)... so great to hear this matter is mentioned on here and can be discussed and I look forward to seeing that and others views because while I think it is a challenging topic for Bitcoin it is also IMO a fascinating one.
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