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121 sats \ 19 replies \ @Rsync25 24 Aug 2024
It’s time for Nostr. It doesn’t exist other way
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152 sats \ 1 reply \ @SwapMarket 25 Aug 2024
Nostr relays use DNS and can be blocked easily. China blocked them all qiickly a year ago. The west will do too aa soon as they see it as a threat. We need something even more decentralized and robust
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @03365d6a53 25 Aug 2024
nostr relays do not depend on dns
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug 2024
Not to be mean but comments like these make me think you don't understand how serious this is
People getting arrested for small privacy improvements. And Telegram isn't even very private. E.g. everyone working for Signal kinda can't safely travel to Europe anymore. Stop for a second and think about how serious this is.
Derailing to a different software that isn't privacy focused but could maybe in the future become is so offtopic. Just because it's your favorite topic? Are you awake?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 25 Aug 2024
He was arrested for not cooperating with moderation.
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0 sats \ 14 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
Nostr is not a message app like Telegram
I suppose it can be used for messaging
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22 sats \ 5 replies \ @Rsync25 24 Aug 2024
Already exist ideas for to be implemented
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29 sats \ 0 replies \ @taxd OP 24 Aug 2024
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
When will implementation begin?
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @bitgould 25 Aug 2024
implementation is happening already
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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug 2024
When will implementation finish?
What about simplex?
Simplex is more private?
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21 sats \ 7 replies \ @taxd OP 24 Aug 2024
"Someone" should reproduce Telegram on Nostr. With groups, encryption and everything. That would be part of saving the world from these tyrants and the people that vote them into power.
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27 sats \ 3 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Aug 2024
Normies won't touch anything that is not in App Store or Google Play. But yes, the world needs a decentralized confidential FOSS messenger with anonymous developers.
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @guts 24 Aug 2024
Telegram has FOSS client, two PWA apps and stand alone APK of official app. It's the most diverse messaging app.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @drlh 25 Aug 2024
Durov promised some 10 years ago to open source the server code of the telegram. Never did, nor would after selling ads to users.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BeeAye 24 Aug 2024 freebie
that is what 0xChat is intended to be...from what i ubderstand in chatting with the dev.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rsync25 24 Aug 2024
Yes
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @02bcd3eeb0 25 Aug 2024
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67 sats \ 6 replies \ @taxd OP 24 Aug 2024
He has Russian and French citizenship and lives in Dubai. This is a very dangerous precedent for freedom-loving people. Everything has to be done to get him free. Censorship cannot be tolerated. And EU should be dismantled.
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43 sats \ 4 replies \ @sancristrader 24 Aug 2024
I wonder why 4 years ago Macron gave him French citizenship? To trap and arrest him?
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug 2024
Because laws are laws and not whatever the sitting president wants
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22 sats \ 2 replies \ @sancristrader 25 Aug 2024
So French law allows giving honorary citizenship to suspected criminals?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug 2024
That's not the order of events. Are you lying on purpose or is this another "just asking questions" strawman?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @sancristrader 25 Aug 2024
Just giving you a logical checkmate. What was the correct event order? Telegram has substantially changed since 2021 when he was awarded the citizenship? Or they didn't do the due diligence and didn't know he was the Telegram's owner in 2021?
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64 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug 2024
https://mobile.twitter.com/seanlinehan/status/1827492882321961277
https://m.stacker.news/48006
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTCLNAT 1 Sep 2024
Attacking the right to freedom of expression, privacy and decentralization. Nostr and Bitcoin are the solution. The hostile scenario against those who want to free ourselves is getting tougher. The current system is showing signs of desperation. Does this mean that adoption is near or that it will move even further away in time?
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47 sats \ 2 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Aug 2024
Tornado Cash, Samurai Wallet, Telegram - the trend is clear. Privacy preserving software devs are targeted by the state.
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62 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 24 Aug 2024
I don't think telegram is very private
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 25 Aug 2024
With virtual phone numbers and secure chats it is. The state was also triggered by it popularizing crypto payments.
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45 sats \ 8 replies \ @Malachi17 24 Aug 2024
This one feels different to me than simple censorship and silencing. Part of it is that telegram made some weird earlier moves with regard to privacy. I think we shouldn't be too hasty to conclude we know what's up here.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug 2024
Why do people think Telegram has anything to do with privacy? It's not e2e encrypted!!!
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
What is different?
https://www.theblock.co/post/312939/telegram-founder-and-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-in-france-by-national-anti-fraud-office-tf1?
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Malachi17 24 Aug 2024
It didn't start with end to end encryption for one thing: https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/is-telegram-safe-4130553
Then there was the whole you needed a phone number: https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/7/23498236/telegram-fragment-phone-number-crypto-verification-monetization
Telegram didn't start out with privacy in mind. It feels vaguely like some kind of honey trap that backfired.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug 2024
How is this relevant to his arrest by French police?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Malachi17 25 Aug 2024
Isn't INTERPOL in France?
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Malachi17 25 Aug 2024
https://m.stacker.news/48133
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31 sats \ 3 replies \ @openyoureyes 25 Aug 2024
Telegram was good as the opposition in russia used it because russia was not able to stop it. But now the opposition in france and the rest of the world is using it so they want to shut it down.
No unmoderated free speech in europe anymore. This has to stop because mainstream media is losing the battle and we need more manipulated sheeps for the battle against russia.
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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @petertodd 25 Aug 2024
The Russian military is freaking out right now because they use Telegram extensively.
If anything, Telegram's encryption is so sketchy, almost non-existent, that it may have been a Russian government honeypot pretending to be independent. Use of it is formally banned in the Ukrainian military, for damn good reasons. Almost all communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
It would have been much more reasonable to arrest him on the basis that Telegram was not private enough...
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 25 Aug 2024
Truth about governments is dangerous
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @chairman_pretense 25 Aug 2024
Same story with Twitter.
Remember the Arab Spring and Western governments celebrating the role of Twitter in organising protest against repressive regimes?
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24 sats \ 3 replies \ @BeeAye 24 Aug 2024 freebie
isnt telegram not even very private?
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 24 Aug 2024
Telegram did not cooperate with French authorities for backdoor.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko 25 Aug 2024
It's not private, it doesn't even have e2e encryption by default.
Best Telegram has to offer is optionally turning on encryption by going 2 menu layers deep and turning on "secret chat".
Signal is e2e encrypted.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 25 Aug 2024
Yet Signal is not banned, because they cooperate with West governments. A better alternative is SimpleX
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Thereal 25 Aug 2024
It will always be in my head to imagine Satoshi Nakamoto.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 25 Aug 2024
Tick tock next block!
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 24 Aug 2024
I guess his brother would take the charge now. But who knows if Pavel gives the keys to French authorities.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @zx 24 Aug 2024
'other serious crimes'
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7 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
https://www.theblock.co/post/312939/telegram-founder-and-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-in-france-by-national-anti-fraud-office-tf1
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21 sats \ 11 replies \ @oliverweiss 24 Aug 2024
What did he do at this airport? As far as I know, le Bourget airport is not used for commercial air transportation.
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21 sats \ 9 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Aug 2024
He did not plan to land there. His plane was forced to refuel. Maybe the traffic controllers or the pilots were part of the conspiracy.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
Of course they were part of the conspiracy. It’s not coincidence or bad luck
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 25 Aug 2024
Maybe not? 660642
I’m trying to cross link to MiddleWay’s comment, not sure it works properly. This one:
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @oliverweiss 24 Aug 2024
Any source for this?
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21 sats \ 5 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Aug 2024
Listening it live here (in Russian): https://www.youtube.com/live/8Yto4TmTbig
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
You can understand Russian?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 24 Aug 2024
sure )
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @oliverweiss 24 Aug 2024
There is still a little chance that what they said is not true. There will be more information from different sources coming in.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @sancristrader 24 Aug 2024
Exited from his private jet.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 24 Aug 2024
Censorship and surveillance fascists
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3 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 25 Aug 2024
Why do people like telegram so much?
Just use email?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @f6287b82CC84bcbd 25 Aug 2024
simplex.chat
Its decentralized (meaning you can self host and still access all your contacts) and encrypted. You should run it over tor or using snowflake if tor is blocked
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 24 Aug 2024
He have 2 citizenship
He broke a rule
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @zx 24 Aug 2024
Which rule?
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 25 Aug 2024
That's what I would like to know too
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38 sats \ 0 replies \ @openyoureyes 25 Aug 2024
A uncensored platform where people can communicate and share the crimes of media and government.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Octopus 25 Aug 2024 outlawed
stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.
0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DawnoftheDead 25 Aug 2024
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