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It's hard for me to bond with people, much more after the psycopandemic. I see normies as collaborators of the state opression, which is true and that generates a lot of ressentment, division, hate and distance. I have Ludwig von Mises book Human Action in my mind in those moments, that one must profit and serve society in some sense with the skills and division of labour, but very often I just want to get away from people, then comes a bit of loliness. As a tech nerd bitcoin, nostr, linux and etc gives me a lot of hope, but I feel the oposite about society. Do you feel the same?
I would love to see some real life SN meetups happen, and would definitely go to those. There a strong culture of anonymity/ pseudonymity here but I bet at least some would participate... We can always introduce ourselves with a different name.
Maybe when this platform has more members it will get easier to find enough people in a given location to do some of these.
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I've certainly been there. Something that let me let go of that animosity is realizing that each individual's vote makes no difference, so whichever individual I'm thinking about, none of this is their fault. If I knew anyone of actual significance, I'd have to hold them to a different standard.
While it would be great if everyone suddenly became great Misesians, that's just not in the cards and most people are a net positive to society in their own way. If you can try to see that in others it might help.
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Be genuinely interested in other people. No matter what their beliefs are.
Ask questions about their lives. Most people love to talk about themselves (Bitcoiners are not an exception).
This will give you some social capital to bring in topics more important to you, plus they will be more receptive to your original ideas because you showed interest in them.
If you still don't enjoy the interaction, be polite and excuse yourself to the nearest Bitcoin meetup!
Not everybody is meant to connect and share chemistry with each other.
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95 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 29 Aug
Find other people with your values. Moving somewhere or near somewhere with a large population center will help a lot. My generic advice for people looking to meet high quality people is to do martial arts.
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What’s unique about people who do martial arts?
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It has a strong selection filter. It attracts low time preference people that want to better themselves. That’s my experience with BJJ at least.
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Just be love and eliminate your fears. You will be fine.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 30 Aug
Its easy to find your tribe on the internet, but difficult IRL.
Maybe try and start a meet up in your area and see if you can find people that have similar views.
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I feel that relating to different people is an art. There will always be good people and bad people that you may come across in life. Of course, you will always have to get something beneficial from good people, and from bad people, well, learn from mistakes and that kind of thing. But don't give up now. There are always good people. Good people are more.
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How to bond with people while maintaing your values and not being an asshole?
Learn to respect the differences. We are all different and we all value slightly different things, and that's fine.
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At the risk of stating the obvious, you cannot bond with people with whom you don't share common values.
My advice would be to find yourself some local, Mises-reading bitcoiners.
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Yes, you are not alone. Here the same.
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Strongly agree. The name of this era should be Narcissism. That is, malicious self-love. One out of every 6 people started to have this disease. It is impossible not to come across such people. Follow these experts on narcissism on YouTube. You will realize a lot. Dr. Ramani Durvasula Dr. Sam Vaknin Dr. Carter (A. K. A. Dr. C) Jerry Wise
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Go to bed with them?
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I will apply this
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Yes, I feel the exact same way and the loneliness does get to me but.. I always remind myself that people are individuals and should be treated as such.
Yes, many have been conditioned the same way by ingesting the propaganda. However, placing others in a group in our minds and dealing with them based on our perception of the group is not a healthy way to interact with others.
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I definitely find it harder to have conversations with normies now since 2020. I really don't have anything in common with them anymore but I am civil, professional and try to take the high road. I even try to educate them on different viewpoints.
I'm definitely not all knowing, but I don't have random relationships with many of them anymore.
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I think it’s possible to create value as a solitary individual contributor, even if the path isn’t intuitive. I wish you good luck in carving your path
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You have to get with the crowd of people that share your interests. You are going toward the right step by reading and using SN. Let go of the rest and let everyone else do their own thing.
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Where I live there is a saying
"the more I know people, the more I love my dog"
Dealing with other humans has always been difficult, but it gets harder every day. Because they are:
"lovers of themselves, lovers of money, haughty, ungrateful, disobedient to parents, unwilling to make any agreement, without natural affection"
It is understandable then that it is difficult for him to be with other people. But Bitcoin generates a community that shares what it knows, brings together people who want to teach and learn, Nostr does not isolate us, it only gives us freedom and privacy.
So "as much as you can, help those you can"
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