I'm amazed that they didn't get any sort of loan from DOE earlier. DOE has been pumping out billions to these green companies before the election
DOE makes loans to green companies?
What happens if the companies default?
What is the default rate?
What is the interest rate?
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140 sats \ 4 replies \ @Cje95 30 Aug
Oh buddy…. Oh do I have a story for you! Solyndra was the first company to get a loan from DOE under Obama and went bankrupt in less than two years!
There have been several immensely successful ones… Tesla for example received one and repaid it within 3 years. Because there wasn't a lot of money that went with the program in its founding I am not sure you can really equate success rate to the program now because it has had such an explosion in funding. Regarding interest rates they are extremely low.
The IG for DOE has already testified raising and echoing Republican concerns as well
DOE Inspector General Teri Donaldson gave credence to GOP gripes during the October hearing, where she warned that the Inflation Reduction Act’s mandate to spend the money quickly could create mismanagement problems.
“We have massive amounts of money, all of these things happening at once create a level of risk that may candidly be described as unprecedented,” Donaldson said in October.
You can read all about the issues here Sunnova is another huge issue they got $3 bil
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I remember Solyndra, I didn't realize they were the first to get a DOE loan!
Solyndra was a manufacturer of cylindrical panels of copper indium gallium selenide (CIGS) thin film solar cells based in Fremont, California. Heavily promoted as a leader in the sustainable energy sector for its unusual technology, Solyndra was not able to compete with conventional solar panel manufacturers of crystalline silicon.[1] In 2009, the Obama administration co-signed $535 million loans to Solyndra.[2]
The company filed for bankruptcy on September 1, 2011.
Solyndra designed, manufactured, and sold solar photovoltaic (PV) systems composed of panels and mounting hardware for large, low-slope commercial rooftops. The panels perform optimally when mounted horizontally and packed closely together, the company claimed, covering significantly more of the typically available roof area and producing more electricity per rooftop on an annual basis than a conventional panel installation.[5]
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Solyndra received a $535 million U.S. Department of Energy loan guarantee, the first recipient of a loan guarantee under President Barack Obama's economic stimulus program, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.[18] The loan program took a $528 million loss from Solyndra.[19][20] Additionally, Solyndra received a $25.1 million tax break from California's Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority.[21] SoloPower also received similar funding from the U.S. Department of Energy.[22]
Following the bankruptcy, the government had expected to recoup $27 million under the Solyndra restructuring plan, or up to 100% of loaned funds from a $1.5 billion lawsuit filed against Chinese polysilicon solar-panel makers for alleged price fixing.[3] The outcomes of the lawsuits were that, in November 2015, Yingli Green Energy Holding Co Ltd. settled a claim filed by Solyndra for $7.5 million, and in April 2016 Trina Solar Ltd. settled a claim filed by Solyndra for $45 million. In June 2016 a Stipulation Of Dismissal was filed jointly between Solyndra and Suntech Power Holdings Co Ltd. and later signed by Hon. Saundra B. Armstrong on November 30, 2017.[23]
Between 2009 and mid-2011 the price of polysilicon, the key ingredient for most competing technologies, dropped by about 89% due to Chinese advances in the Siemens process.[26] This precipitous drop in the cost of raw materials for Solyndra's competitors rendered CIGS technology incapable of competing, and other factors, including a contemporaneous drop in the price of natural gas, together with the faltering of the corresponding financial models, also contributed to Solyndra's demise,[27] despite quickly raising capital.[28] On August 31, 2011, Solyndra announced it was filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, laying off 1,100 employees, and shutting down all operations and manufacturing.[29]

This time, they’re focusing their attention on Sunnova Energy, which recently won a $3 billion federal loan guarantee for a massive “virtual power plant” project. Republicans are raising the alarm over the company’s track record, accusing it of “troubling sales practices” while alleging potential favorable treatment from the Department of Energy.
The GOP probe of Sunnova follows months of pressure from the party and its allies. It includes charges that Sunnova unfairly benefited from close ties to Jigar Shah, the director of DOE’s Loan Programs Office, and that it had a long history of scamming its rooftop solar customers. Biden administration officials say they stand behind the award.
Whether that proves true remains to be seen. In 2009, Solyndra got a $535 million loan guarantee from DOE but went insolvent two years later. The scandal became shorthand for waste and mismanagement in former President Barack Obama’s green agenda.
Sunnova, a rooftop solar company founded in 2012 in Houston, was picked in April for a $3 billion loan guarantee for what it calls Project Hestia, a bid to link up to 115,000 homes’ rooftop solar and battery storage to improve grid resilience.
Shah, a clean energy entrepreneur and former podcast host, stands out from most bureaucrats. He’s known to make frank remarks in person and online. He’s acknowledged that there will likely be failures on some of the loans or guarantees that come out of his office.
Following the stock price drop, he defended the project, writing on X, formerly known as Twitter, “LPO firmly stands behind Project Hestia, which will expand solar access to up to 115k US homes. We held @SunnovaEnergy to the highest standards in our due diligence, which they’ve met with enthusiasm since day 1, while implementing new customer service programs.”
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 30 Aug
Yeah Sunnova is under investigation by several states for their business practices... supposedly they were super super predatory on the elderly and in some cases signatures were forged... its a whole thing but somehow they are still on the stock market....
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Can you double check the Forbes link? Is it the right article regarding failed green companies?
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I think they did but the rates still scared them off
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104 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 30 Aug
I checked out all of DOE’s announcements this Congress and no they were trying to leverage 45X tax credits… not that that is a wrong plan but PlugPower got a $1.13 billion loan and DOE loaned $1.2 billion to ENTEK Lithium Separators… even failed companies like Li Cycle has a $360 million loan they haven't pulled yet lol
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so the Inflation Reduction Act isn't reducting inflation? I'm shocked
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 30 Aug
Whats wild is how people are going whoop whoop inflation is falling when not only is it wayyy above the 2% rate the Fed wants but also when it was like idk 5 or 7% last year it isn't saying much falling to freaking 2.8%
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