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906 sats \ 30 comments \ @didiplaywell 2 Sep meta

I have said this before, so I'm just writing it here for it to be formally stated on meta.

I have heard from SN admins that the plan is to make SN something of a "digital city". Based on the potential SN has, I propose to understand it as a "digital port", rather than a city: SN is excellent as a first stop right after jumping into the NS, the Nostr Sea. It provides you with a safe and smooth first experience to get up to rhythm to start navigating Nostr, and it can provide you everything to do it: the wallet, the keys, hopefully the logging too for safety. SN would thus be the port from which you can safely prepare to jump into any Nostr client (the ships), to start navigating the Nostr network (the sea). I really see this abstraction converging and being functional, so hopefully this two sats contribute to SN evolution :)

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80 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheWildHustle 2 Sep

I like the port analogy in regards to crossposting content to the wider nostr ecosystem.

Would be great to select where you'd like your content crossposted

Yakihonne
Fountain
Satlantis
Nostr Global
Flare

Additional support to make crossposting appear perfectly on its nostr client

Each client could come up with monetization strategies similar to SN, if your able to crosspost between rewards based clients you'd create pretty powerful flywheel effects as a content creator.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

Absolutely, I think all of this becomes more evident by using the "digital port" analogy. It not only makes more clear its functions and possibilities but will also outline much important limitations so to not to become bloated but streamlined.

140 sats \ 14 replies \ @Undisciplined 2 Sep

I'm so impressed by how many value propositions SN fulfills. This is a cool conceptualization, but I don't think it should be the way to think about SN.

What @k00b has done is make a fairly minimalistic site that provides lots of different people something they've been looking for.

Your port analogy might help explain why we "lose" so many prominent stackers. They took harbor at SN, stocked up, and then set sail.

79 sats \ 13 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

That's an opportune remark because I see it the opposite way and it's an important aspect to underscore: the fact SN still lacks the properties I'm mentioning regarding its connection to Nostr might be the reason people that had to set sail had to also cut ties. No one who left could bring something with them. Whereas, if SN provides the wallet, the keys, and the logging, it will keep being the port people will come back to.

By all means SN shall remain minimalistic, but I think it's two twitches from reaching the "digital port" potential.

151 sats \ 8 replies \ @Undisciplined 2 Sep

There's no conflict between minimalism and growth. The minimalism comes from extreme conscientiousness about what changes are made. Better integration with nostr also strikes me as being important to explore.

For regulatory reasons, SN won't be providing wallets. I agree with you, though, that it's a great current feature and would be useful to build up.

74 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 2 Sep

For regulatory reasons, SN won't be providing wallets

We could provide a wallet interface though. Connect your wallet to SN and then connect that wallet through SN to different site. That might be useful if the site doesn’t support your wallet but SN does or if you like the wallet logs or management in SN or don’t want to leak your node pubkey.

So basically you could use your SN lightning address as a translation layer between wallet connections for receiving but I don’t know how that would work for sending.

45 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 2 Sep

https://m.stacker.news/49513

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

Yessssss yes to all, this is the way I see SN evolving, hence the "digital port" analogy

44 sats \ 4 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

There's no conflict between minimalism and growth.

But, I see it the same way, I'm not arguing against that. On the contrary, I think that just some twitches on the structure and operation of some tools SN already has and the ones that are in development can unblock potential within the same minimalism.

For regulatory reasons, SN won't be providing wallets.

Very sad to hear that, I didn't know nor expected that there were regulatory constraints on those tools :/

41 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 2 Sep

I don't think we were disagreeing. I just wanted to spell out that point.

The wallet situation is a little sad, but that will just have to be something people learn how to do on SN, but actually do elsewhere.

70 sats \ 2 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

But I did wanted to disagree, then pretend I didn't, and then go back and forth letting chaos ensue. I can't work this way @Undisciplined, I hope you will reconsider your attitude.

81 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 2 Sep

Fine! You're wrong about everything, you son of a bitch!

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

ahhhh... this is what social interaction is about :')

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41 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 2 Sep

No one who left could bring something with them.

Just wanted to note that this is inaccurate. All posts are available for crossposting even after the fact. We have a PR for crossposting comments too.

55 sats \ 2 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

Yes sorry, I should have been more specific, I didn't meant the posts, but SN tools.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 2 Sep

I see, but now I'm confused. Can you be more specific about what you mean by SN tools?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 3 Sep

The most important is the wallet, then there's the possibility of connecting/reposting in various platforms.

74 sats \ 1 reply \ @riberet19 2 Sep

You're right, for me SN also opened the doors to Nostr, SN is a good place to start.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

Thank you for confirming! :)

87 sats \ 2 replies \ @hasherstacker 2 Sep

Here's the pill https://m.stacker.news/49446

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

As if they were tiktaks

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @madisonsandoval 2 Sep

nice one. did you make it, or just find it?

20 sats \ 3 replies \ @cryotosensei 2 Sep

Great Big Hairy Audacious Goal!

Btw NS means National Service ( Military conscription) in Singapore haha

45 sats \ 2 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

NS means National Service ( Military conscription) in Singapore

(Sensei we spoke about this, not until they had fallen for the trap!! 🤫)

ehem.. yea! what a funny way to spell "Nostr Sea"! riiiigth?? 👀

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 3 Sep

Till we take over the world!

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 3 Sep

🫡

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Msd0457890 2 Sep

I totally agree with you, SN has taught me so many things and Nostr has allowed me to continue becoming independent.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @didiplaywell OP 2 Sep

I'm glad you see it that way! It has been my experience too so far :) And I think it can/should be a regular experience (specially this days...)

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @hasherstacker 2 Sep

I normally crosspost to SN also, where necessary.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 2 Sep outlawed

stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.