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If Kamala is elected, USA will never be the same. Point of no return.

I should've mentioned I'm not American. And I still understand voting for a lesser evil and then moving on with life. It's just better mentally to know we can build alternatives and don't have to be slaves to the system, thinking the only way to improve things is to "vote harder".

I also said a lot less, not "none" :P

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It’s one thing to not vote. It’s another thing to vote for the wrong candidate like so many SN users

Look at Venezuela in 1999. They made a regrettable decision by voting for free healthcare. What alternatives have they built for peace of mind? Elections have consequences even if it’s fashionable to say they don’t

You can decide to opt out of society but sometimes you don’t have a choice

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Fair point.

Though on that note I wish I had opted out in 2015 instead of contributing to Trudeau. Fell for the "sunny ways" scam

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What was the turning point for you?

For me it was in 2018 or 19 when I realized I underestimated the corruption and dishonesty of the left. I knew they were terrible but didn’t grasp the extent of it.

Then covid happened in 2020 which was another turning point. Censorship and free speech. Plus election interference by Twitter and big tech.

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Around the same time. 2017-2018. I think it was an because of the 2016 Trump era by extension.

I had a lot of friends on both side of it, but the MAGA side seemed to have a lot more fun and better memes (r/thedonald was still around). Through following that and how the MSM and culture skewed reality, swayed minds or lied, it made me more critical about ours at home.

It also came at a time when I started reading more economics and realpolitik type stuff. I was already turned by then, nail in coffin and all, but with 2020 coming around and then the convoy it was further beating a dead horse.

Edit: it's late and realpolitik isn't the right word. I meant generally reading and paying attention to more "realist political theory", how power works in reality beyond the flowery promises and how it's easily corrupt

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The corruption of media was a big deal for me too. Thanks for mentioning. Mainstream media is now Pravda

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Don’t be so apocalyptic.

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apocalypse means unveiing of something hidden; the word has nothing to do with chaos, if that's what u had in mind.

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that's not the original meaning, stop consulting diction-aries. we don't call them definition-aries for a reason. these sources do not define, but dictate what words should mean, not what they really mean.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/apocalypse

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You asked what I had in mind.

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the word chaos is much more fitting for proper english.
when a population is taken over by some external monarchy, it starts changing the language. we must stay vigilant.

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End of the world doom and gloom

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Her statements about price gouging are indefensible

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excuse me, return to where?

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Accelerated decline

USA will never survive or recover from President Kamala because of her Marxist ideology and low intelligence

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