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Can the US manage escalating debt without triggering a fiscal crisis?www.euronews.com/business/2024/04/25/can-the-us-manage-its-escalating-debt-without-triggering-a-fiscal-crisis

1132 sats \ 41 comments \ @IamSINGLE 21 Sep econ

The US is grappling with record $34.5 trillion debt, triple the eurozone's, and set to hit 134% of GDP by 2029. Elevated deficits and skyrocketing interest payments may evoke fears of imminent fiscal crisis if countermeasures are not adopted.

The US national debt has soared to a staggering $34.5 trillion (€32.3 trillion), nearly three times that of the entire eurozone, accounting for 122% of its gross domestic product (GDP) versus the eurozone's 87%. According to the latest International Monetary Fund (IMF)'s Fiscal Monitor report, this figure is projected to rise to 134% by 2029, indicating a worsening debt trajectory.

I found this article while searching for EU economy debt. It's very interesting however Euronews has gone with the comparison as if EURO were same as USD. @TomK, you wanna say something about this, may be?

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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 21 Sep

I don't see US and USD bith going anywhere in next 100 years.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 22 Sep

They surely can't manage to go with it for a long time. With China and Russia challenging dollar supremacy they need to find another way.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Golu 22 Sep

Where I see US moving towards with this much debt is nowhere. They have created a trap and I don't see them coming out of it for sure. As far as EU is concerned, they have their own problems.

32 sats \ 2 replies \ @sancristrader 21 Sep

Realistically, the debt will be inflated out. With low interest rates. This will include the loss of the reserve currency status.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

When do you see the US economy fall? Which year I mean?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @sancristrader 21 Sep

I think around 2042, there will be a catastrophic failure.

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86 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined 21 Sep

The US can manage it...until it can't. There's really no way to know when that will be.

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89 sats \ 3 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

What about EU? Isn't this Euronews trying to be oversmart while saying that EU is in a better position.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @JesseJames 21 Sep

They can say all they wont, it wont change a thing in reality. They will still live in their LaLa Land and tell you "all is fine". But it ain't and its gonna get worse before its gonna get better. They know it, just can't say it...

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 21 Sep

Yeah, they're being too clever by half. Everyone knows there's more dollar demand internationally (Euro demand is almost non-existent). That means the US can support a much larger deficit. America essentially exports fiat to other nations.

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

I think they are trying to console Europeans with such articles are found everywhere in EU media. The EU economy is under a great crisis and they have been lying like this forever Months now.

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @023ad18700 21 Sep

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11 sats \ 7 replies \ @grayruby 21 Sep

Not forever, but yes they can likely keep kicking the can down the road for awhile longer.

70 sats \ 6 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

Longer than EU?

11 sats \ 5 replies \ @grayruby 21 Sep

Good question. Yes likely.

70 sats \ 4 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

It's also the question that this article raised while comparing US debt with that of EU's. I thought they were just trying to fool people of EU by suggesting their economy is invincible but US is going to fall very soon. And then Euro will become the global currency.

11 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 21 Sep

While debt levels might be lower, Euro nations have a lot more problems in my opinion than the US. Lack of energy independence. Socialist leaning governance. Strong members need to keep weak members of European Union propped up.

70 sats \ 2 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

Thanks. Can we add their green revolution propoganda to the list that will be the reason for their fall?

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 21 Sep

That ties both into the energy independence issue and socialist governance issue.

70 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

Yes, definitely. I just went with my emotions. I only blame Green propoganda for the decaying economy of Europe.

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @SpaceHodler 21 Sep

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @jerrybature 21 Sep

It is not wise to believe that the US can manage the debt crisis without resorting into fiscal crisis. Take a good look at the debt record once again. Dark clouds hovering.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE OP 21 Sep

Definitely hovering upon US but it's also not wise to believe that EU is in a great position to manage the debt, or is it?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @jerrybature 21 Sep

Correct.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @stack_harder 22 Sep

the EU will probably just mirror what the US is doing, they're in a similar dynamic, but with the euro being a lot worse of than USD beccuase so many countries have so much exposure to treasuries and anyone with a weaker currency just tries to get dollars. no one give a fuck about the euro

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 21 Sep

These numbers are really meaningless because GDP is a completely made up figure and the system is literally based on debt

It could technically go on in perpetuity if the underlying economy was efficient, but alas these systems combined with the dollars reserve status make it decidedly not so.

Who's to say when it ends? What does end even mean? It changes dramatically every decade or so anyway... but my guess is the fake pandemic was needed cover to kick the fiscal the can a cycle with a few Trilly until this election/ww3 setup could be a catalyst for something bigger... we're about there now... red october?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 21 Sep

Can they or will they? I think it is a question if they care enough.