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475 sats \ 34 comments \ @timapple 27 Sep tech

I've been thinking about it, and I feel it may be a bit late for Nostr. I think activity pub has gathered most of the momentum and will come out on top in the future. What do you all think?

Note: I love Nostr, but I don't think it has the acceptance nor will it.

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641 sats \ 6 replies \ @hodlpleb 27 Sep

what is activity pub?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @rheedi0 27 Sep

this is my favorite comment on the internet today

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bisdak 28 Sep

honestly me too 😅 just heard it on a nostr client.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timapple OP 28 Sep

Activity pub is what things like Mastodon are based on, and many other services

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 28 Sep

Was wondering the same thing.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 27 Sep

No seriously, what is activity pub?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 27 Sep

also my question

175 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 27 Sep

It's never too late for something better.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @timapple OP 27 Sep

Very true of course. Was just a feeling I was going with today.

11 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

ActivityPub has the problem of your identity being tied to a server unlike on nostr. See this for more arguments.

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @eroc1990 27 Sep

I don't see that as a bad thing, necessarily. Sometimes you want centralized moderation. I have self-sovereignty on my own data by running my own Mastodon instance, but I can still use the greater network.

I do love Nostr's complete portability but to say one is better than the other, in my opinion, would be doing a disservice to the one being put down.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @leaf 27 Sep

There isnt any reason the two cannot be interoperable with stuff like mostr. In fact, for ultimate robustness, I hope we end up with a load of different protocols bridged together

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @BTCLNAT 27 Sep

I have been educated in Nostr and it has everything to do with decentralization and censorship resistance. Also as a protocol it is strong. But every option is valuable and everyone chooses.

But recently I heard about Tox? According to what I have searched it has P2P Chat features, like a solution to Skype. Is it FOS? Only has a Chat function? What do you think?

Nostr has it all

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @doubleplusgood23 28 Sep

I haven't heard about Tox in a hot minute. It's dead as far as I know.

If you're looking for secure chat Signal is pretty mistake proof - this furry did some recent write ups on what he felt makes a good messaging app. https://soatok.blog/2024/07/31/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-signal-competitor/

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 27 Sep

Tox is excellent for private and secure communication. Yes its open source and there are several versions of it available.

1 sat \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 27 Sep

Nah. Nostr will win.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @eroc1990 27 Sep

Giving off this energy rn haha

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 27 Sep

We must be in it to win it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @doubleplusgood23 28 Sep

I think it's too early to tell. What I will say is people talk about other stuff besides the fediverse on the fediverse, I can't say the same for Nostr. It's mostly super high noise: AI spam, boomer tier memes, obvious scams, and accounts with posts like "I just set up Nostr" and zero other activity.

I also think it's interesting that people here don't know what ActivityPub is. It suggests to me a lotta people haven't done the bare minimum research on alternative social media but are still posting hot takes about it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @mbrochh1 28 Sep

What? Nostr is exploding with activity and development progress, it's almost absurd.

At this point, my official stance is "if you aren't on Nostr, you aren't a Bitcoiner".

I've never heard about Activity Pub.

33 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 28 Sep

I personally like stacker news way more than nostr

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @janetyellen 28 Sep

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17T 27 Sep

The idea of any social network of known people that is publicly available may be undoable.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taft 27 Sep

There's always room for improvement, no matter how late it may seem.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justanumber 27 Sep

Maybe when everyone has to full-on kyc for the mainstream sm platforms ppl might wake up to the freedom of Nostr

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bartoli 27 Sep

Who said nostr was supposed to be used only for social networks?

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @jasonb 27 Sep

I’ve not heard of activity pub. Given that, I’m already skeptical that it has more momentum than nostr, but maybe I’m out of the loop. Is there anything it does better?

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @timapple OP 27 Sep

Activity pub is what is behind Mastodon and many other services.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @konstantin21 27 Sep

mastodon allows censorship on every server at the discretion of the owner and no moving your social graph. its kind of the opposite of nostr. would not consider them competitors.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @timapple OP 27 Sep

Nostr is just as easily censored at the relay. Just like Mastodon you can host your own which is the one true independence if you had to go that far.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @konstantin21 29 Sep

disingenuous take imo. hosting a nostr relay hooks me into the rest of nostr and swapping relays is very simple and non destructive to my social graph. starting up my own social network from 0 users is not a solution to censorship.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 27 Sep

Ah, thanks. I made a nostr client that filters out Bitcoin and nostr-related content and the vast bulk of what is left is cross-posting from mastodon, so I’m tempted to believe you now. Haha However, is the protocol behind it as censorship resistant as nostr? I wonder if all those folks cross-posting will just become nostr only posters if something dirty happens with activity pub.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 27 Sep

It’s not as censorship-resistant since your identity is tied to a server.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 27 Sep

There can always be two. People will find that nostr is better at some things. And it all comes back to how well it updates.