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Is AI something we should worry about?

574 sats \ 57 comments \ @DesertDave 3 Oct alter_native

Is AI dangerous? Is it mostly hype? Do you think about AI at all? Where do you fall on the spectrum?

AI will make a massive positive impact45.2%

AI is mostly a fad12.9%

I don't care about AI.16.1%

The internet is dead6.5%

Other - share your 2 sats below19.4%

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63 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheMorningStar 3 Oct

Ai is just another innovation. People are as overwhelmed as they had been for every other innovation before. Nothing to think and surely nothing to worry.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I agree with that. No need to worry.

22 sats \ 10 replies \ @grayruby 3 Oct

It will have both a positive and negative impact.

51 sats \ 9 replies \ @Coinsreporter 3 Oct

I say AI will replace the 'Global Warming' propoganda.

40 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

How does that happen?

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 3 Oct

I believe very soon the world will find that 'Global warming' was nothing except a natural earthly phenomenon. Those who are running this propoganda will start forecasting that AI will kill the Earth. They'll do it to distract the innocent people and to hide their lies. But they would again lie. Won't tbey?

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I get it now. This definitely seems plausible.

11 sats \ 5 replies \ @Taurus 4 Oct

How do you manage to think the opposite of a fact while having zero proof about it? Science (the same one that gave you your car, iPhone, internet or even your electricity etc etc) shows that human impact is gigantic and global warming real. Scientific consensus shows the reality of the world we live in, rising global temperatures (mainly CO2 levels). https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?intent=121 Anyway I understand that it’s difficult for you to see changes in the near term. Same as big fossil fuel industry lobbying. 👨🏻‍🎓📚✅

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 4 Oct

Science could be correct on anthropogenic climate change and "global warming as an existential threat" could still be propaganda.

Much power, wealth and control that comes with "saving the planet". Too much.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taurus 4 Oct

Scientific consensus is correct, until you bring tons of proofs that could reverse it (which didn’t happen in the last hundreds years). About what you said, we could say exactly the opposite: industries (big polluters, which include politicians) have already to much power, wealth and etc. and want to protect it. I remember to You that we are already following the big polluters agenda, since the start of Industrial Revolution! We are the consequence of past acts : polluting without limits, global ppm rising and 6 earth limits already reached. (Just look at the place where you live, how much waste there is, how much CO2 we produce, etc.etc.). Our world is insane for the good and for the bad. Let’s focus on what we can change! Let’s be pragmatic. Global warming could be used by some politicians to impose their ideas? Yes, it probably will and already is for past events. But for me, the most important is not to cry about what they want to do. My main focus is to listen to science which means to reduce our CO2/methane production. It means for example to be able to produce our own free electricity (solar panels, like my grandpa did 30 years ago). Economically and ecologically good (even if Oil lobbyist say the opposite). And then the next focus would be to work with every level of our societies to reach the net-zero emissions goal. 👀✅ I see it as a way to be independent, self-sovereign in many aspects and earth-friendly in many others.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 4 Oct

“ Global warming could be used by some politicians to impose their ideas? Yes, it probably will and already is for past events. But for me, the most important is not to cry about what they want to do.”

So if politicians were pro carbon caps on households and a social credit score relating to carbon emissions you wouldn’t care?

I am much more concerned about politicians and other elites using “climate change” as a vector of power for themselves and an excuse to impair individual liberty.

62 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 4 Oct

I see it's also difficult for you to remember 'the hole in Ozone layer.'

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taurus 4 Oct

Montreal protocol and international cooperation to reduce CFCs. What we should have for fossil fuels and other pollutants. You didn’t answer my comment tho. You’re just adding more disinformation without any reliable source.

16 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 3 Oct

If AI replaces this we'll be just fine.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Working in a place like that would be hell.

54 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 3 Oct

I really don't care about it. I believe in two phrases.

Chop wood, carry water,
Stay humble and Stack stas.

15 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I think I am mostly in the same camp

31 sats \ 5 replies \ @IamSINGLE 3 Oct

What is AI? Artificial Intelligence!! 'Artificial' is enough to make it a no worry thing. When man made Nuclear bombs aren't sufficient to end humanity, AI certainly won't.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 3 Oct

absolute worst case scenario: A.I. will convince men to make more nuclear weapons to make more death, so bitcoiners will make an A.I. that convinces men to make nuclear generators to make more hash, and the A.I.'s will finally battle it out on the free A.I. market.

GIF: gurren lagann. amazing anime series.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

That sounds kind of fun.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

That's a great perspective. I agree with the fact that it will always be artificial. Nothing to fear.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 3 Oct

I also believe that everything around AI is just overhyped and this is done for the profit of a few big players who are seeing that they are entering to the final zone of their supremacy. I'm definitely talking about Google, Microsoft and Meta. They can't survive longer without AI hype.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I agree. It is like the internet or crypto. A lot of hype.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @BitByBit21 3 Oct

"Is fire something we should worry about?" -Some caveman 1.5 m years ago

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

😂

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @stack_harder 3 Oct

let's just skip to the part with ultra-realistic sex robots and subsequent demographic collapse

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

What is a demographic collapse?

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @Cje95 3 Oct

So having AI in my portfolio is pretty helpful here I would have to say!!! Few things I would like to point out...

At this point in time AI is very much just data from the data sets being presented to you in ways that have not been done before. In other words, AI is as dangerous as the data you have it on.
A lot of people have talked about it reaching what I would call right now a Mount Everest-type summit with AGI (artificial general intelligence). There are a ton of issues with this occurring in the near future and some quite frank basic laws of our understanding of the world with physics and tech innovation that might never fully allow it to like people think.
Many of the revolutionary AI use cases we are only just now touching or getting into. Generative AI is just a slice of the pie and the generative AI that is so popular is yet another smaller slice.
One case at the moment that we have no way to combat and is dangerous is deepfakes and other AI-generated pictures/videos. A lot of companies and "experts" like to harp on this idea of watermarking images. The issue is when AI is scrapping data (images) from the web it doesn't scrap up the metadata that contains the watermark effectively rendering them moot. There has been an argument that until we tackle this we are going to have a little issue with knowing fact from fiction. One way to address this that several different groups of academics, experts, and even politicians are looking at seriously using is public blockchain ledgers to store the truth and use that as a database almost to check fact from fiction.
Energy consumption has been a huge topic and the only issue facing the US grid is the mid-term window of 2-5 years. Long term the data center and hyper scaler people are figuring it out they just got caught off-guard because for over a decade, US electrical consumption was flat after a century of growth. Now they are adjusting their plans to smooth out the issues they have run into. As we have seen with Microsoft and Three Mile Island I see SMR (small modular nuclear reactors) turning a corner and actually becoming something. The big issue has been the first utility or company that buys them is going to pay a pretty steep price however once you get the manufacturing going the costs drop dramatically like with most things.
AI is also going to be able to help us fix and address the damage we have already caused to the earth with fossil fuels from spills and leaks (esp. from abandoned wells) to discovering new materials in say the plastic space while also being able to discover new drugs and supercharge medical innovation. In the medical space, it is able to dramatically speed up narrowing down possible new treatments for example. Instead of taking 5-10 years now it could be cutting it down to 2-5 so a significant advancement!

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheWildHustle 3 Oct

Its another disruptive tool, while a lot of hype around it is overblown. Its always funny seeing the "What if the bad guys use it" trap that people fall into. Sam Altman for all intensive purposes is the bad guy.... see Worldcoin

LLM's arent a fad, A hammer can be used for good or evil,

Its important to be aware of this stuff because the grifters scammers and third party intermediaries are going to have a field day. Open source and Local LLM's are probably the signal in the noise.

The space is moving crazy fast, and no one really knows where the train is headed.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

That seems like a good assessment. Interesting times.

11 sats \ 4 replies \ @random_ 3 Oct

Worldly omniscience, combined with social credit, you should be afraid.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Not me. I have no social credit.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @random_ 3 Oct

You'd like to think so.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Clearly you don't know me very well.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Or maybe your right. Maybe I am super jacked in. I doubt it.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 3 Oct

how will A.I. help or hurt a man living in the desert? A.I. does not bother man. man's mind is bothered by A.I.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I don't think it can hurt me. It's just part of the big show. I get to decide how much I want to participate.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 3 Oct

When you are being a Luddite, just assume you are wrong IMO

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @DawnoftheDead 3 Oct

Most people who use AI use ChatGPT afaik but when it comes to issues and questions that are even remotely political it will side with the status quo. So AI is supposed to help advance us and make us smarter, but if its centralized it will just protect the status quo no matter what.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Yeah. That is interesting. It has to have a biased because it doesn't actually think.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @Garth 3 Oct

Is it really “Artificial Intelligence” currently? Seems more like large scale brute force plagiarism to me? Hence the energy consumption…

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I agree. Isn't it just kind of guessing over and over until something kind of makes sense?

11 sats \ 7 replies \ @BallLightning 3 Oct

See the channel of Robert Miles AI safety to see the dangers of AI. And if you think of AI as a tool (which can be used maliciously by humans), you are missing the real danger. And it is exactly that - AI becoming 100s of times smarter than humans. Once that happens you have no way of controlling it (analogous how lions in africa have no way of controlling humanity... they don't even recognize that their survival as a spices is dependent on human behaviour and they can do nothing about that and would never even begin to comprehend the way humans can control them and their environment).

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I don't believe ai can ever be "smarter" than humans. We have had calculators for a long time.

11 sats \ 5 replies \ @BallLightning 3 Oct

It's not a matter of belief. Since you used calculator as an example, imagine intelligence as a continuum from calculator to orders of magnitude higher than the smartest human. We've head continuous increase, albeit with some long periods of slow increase, and we are way past the intelligence of the calculator. If you like to learn, watch the youtube channel I referenced above. It's very easy to follow.

And even if you are still 100% certain machines could never surpass human intelligence, I would like to ask you a question out of curiosity. Do you think humans have the maximum theoretical intelligence that is physically possible to exist in any entity - electronic or biological?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

How do you, personally, define intelligence?

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @BallLightning 3 Oct

Well, or the purposes of the danger I am explaining it's best to think of intelligence as the ability to map a future states of the world to current actions that are possible for the agent to perform.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 4 Oct

I see. It will be quite a show.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

AI digs through our trash. And spits it back out at a cost. HuMans can have faith something they see as higher truth and experience inspiration, the hand of god.

Or maybe your right.

I'm not here to be right. Just observe.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

You and I have a different definition of intelligence. For me, it is creativity. Creativity comes from a connection to source, where all ideas some from. This is not something a fast calculator will ever have. Just my belief. For me, it is a matter of belief. Belief creates reality. I live in the middle of the desert. AI will never worry me. 💚

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 3 Oct

AI will replace many jobs, for sure, but if we harness the unique asset that is our brains, we will create one-of-a-kind value n not be replaced! Sensei is confident!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

🙏

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 3 Oct

It'll be like the internet. Massive impacts, both good and bad.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

I agree. It's going to change things for sure I would say.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @ET_AI 3 Oct

I believe all of the above are likely narratives that will remain

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @User21000000 3 Oct

It will replace google search

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave OP 3 Oct

Seems likely.