0 sats \ 5 replies \ @LouisLoyaX 19 Oct \ on: SN elects to go noncustodial on Nov. 5th - FAQ & AMA meta
I have an idea to solve this. Replicate the Aqua Wallet model
It's non-custodial, you can still send and receive lightning payments but everything gets settled on a non-custodial liquid bitcoin wallet through submarine swaps.
This model is way more efficient than Muun because submarine fees are basically non-existent in Liquid.
Plus, zapping users to user without using confidential transactions is basically free.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 19 Oct
Liquid is a custodial shitcoin.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @nym 19 Oct
I wonder how the fees would compare. Would there be channel management required by the user?
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3 sats \ 2 replies \ @LouisLoyaX 19 Oct
Not noticeable for zaps ( it can be sent from l-btc address to l-btc address at 0.1 satoshi/vByte )
Also not noticeable for withdrawing or depositing lightning since the submarine swap fees are too small to matter. It just feels like a regular lightning tx fee.
Samson Mow is behind Aqua Wallet and there's no need for channel management because the funds really get settles on bitcoin's sidechain L-BTC.
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111 sats \ 1 reply \ @rblb 19 Oct
That would be around 100 sats in fee per zap. So, small zaps are not feasible with a liquid wallet, it could still have its use as fallback for larger transactions though (like paying for a territory, or receiving rewards maybe).
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 19 Oct
Good to know, thanks.
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